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superfly snuka
Joined: 18 Jul 2010
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 Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:49 am Post subject: Great argument! |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
| Hah hah! This is so funny, hic! Tell us, were you bullied by grammarians as a child? |
you need to get laid!
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Sashadroogie
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Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| Heh heh! Which country am I in, which country are you in? Wha ha ha haaaa!!! |
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mozzar
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Location: France
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: Grammar nerds |
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| superfly snuka wrote: |
The rules were made by nerds who never had to help students acquire language. The nerds can pretend to have some kind of authority over the rest of us , but in the end, the rules are only a guidance not set in stone as i illustrated through the reasoned approach to conditionals. In that case the rules, confuse and the explanations of Improper speech are just plain wrong.
Feel free to worship the grammar gods all you want but it will fail to help your students acquire language , in fact, it may just hinder them. |
Well, that seems to be the opposite approach of most research which indicates that some grammar is most definitely helpful to helpng students learn. You know it's not one or the other, right? It can be in small doses and is important to help students learn. Sure, maybe you don't need to know some of the minute details but having a basic understanding of how the perfect tenses are formed and when to use the conditionals sure is useful.
What is your experience in the field? I know lots of the other people commenting in this thread have been in the ELT field for a long time and their experience (as well as learning) counts for something. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Aw leave him alone, you big nerdy grammar bully. Hic! He's afraid of ponderous dangling participles. |
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