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Guinness88



Joined: 19 Aug 2010
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:42 pm    Post subject: Newly qualified teacher needs advice! Reply with quote

Hi everyone I've just got my CELTA qualificationb from st giles in brighton and would really like to work in latin america. However i cant find much in the way of job adverts on the internet. Ist that because there aren't a lot of jobs or is it better to search for a job once you've arrived? Also how likely would I get a job with just a pass grade at CELTA and little teaching experience?

Be grateful for any tips or advice!
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idiggs



Joined: 04 Feb 2010
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Location: Ecuador La Costa

PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When it comes to Ecuador, a lot of schools do not advertise when they are in need of teachers. They prefer to save money and use the "word of mouth" approach.

I recommend that you look for a job once you have arrived here. You might want to start looking at the big 3 (Guayaquil, Cuenca, Quito).

Most schools do not care what grade you got on your CELTA course. All they care about is that you have a TEFL certificate. Schools in Mexico and Europe are the ones that care about if you have a CELTA or not.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In most Latin American countries, it's usually best to be in country when seeking a job.

Mexican language schools will often advertise locally and ask you to come in for an interview if you contact them online or by phone. you have to find them first as they also don't advertise all that much online.

I don't agree with idiggs on the CELTA though for Mexico. Schools here prefer demonstrable experience over the name on the certificate.


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TeresaLopez



Joined: 18 Apr 2010
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Mexico you pretty much have to be here, and there are always a lot of jobs in the chain schools, and it's fairly easy to supplement with a private class here and there. I don't know where the other poster got the info about the CELTA being asked for in Mexico, *I* have been here for many years and have NEVER seen it specifically required or even requested. Lots of language schools will hire native speakers without any kind of certification and train them in their particular method, others will hire you with pretty much any kind of certificate, and some will just hire you and let you sink or swim.
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idiggs



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The global language institutes (who have campuses in most countries including Mexico) like Berlitz, English First, and Wall Street requires applicants to have a CELTA. Some of the more prestigious universities there also require applicants to have a CELTA.

Maybe the majority of the public schools and public universities do not require it. I can only speaking from my experience. I wanted to work in Mexico and the schools that I applied for wanted to see a proof of a CELTA certificate.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would that be the statement from their offices outside Mexico? I've taught in-service teacher training courses at Wall St. here. No one had a CELTA nor were they required to.
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TeresaLopez



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

idiggs wrote:
The global language institutes (who have campuses in most countries including Mexico) like Berlitz, English First, and Wall Street requires applicants to have a CELTA. Some of the more prestigious universities there also require applicants to have a CELTA.


I don't know where you got your information, but this is not correct at all. Well, I don't know about English First, but I do know that Berlitz and Wall Street do not require much of anything. That may be the case in other places, but it isn't here in Mexico. The only school that I know off that requires a certification doesn't even specify which one it be, though they do pay a bit more than other language schools. Berlitz and Wall Street don't pay enough to attract much more than being alive.
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Isla Guapa



Joined: 19 Apr 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Berlitz and Wall Street don't pay enough to attract much more than being alive.


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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is possible to find a job before arriving, but it's hard. Try to look for jobs after you arrive. Be sure to ask about work visas as well.
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Guinness88



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone this is really helpful information!
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bh_daddy



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ecuador can be a bit different in regards to finding work compared to other countries. Since the tourist visa is limited here to 90 days, and because a work visa and intercultural visa can be obtained prior to arrival, some language schools would prefer to sponsor you for the visa before you get here. That's not to say that a visa can't be arranged once you're here, but if you arrive at a time when the better schools aren't hiring, your 90 days could run out before the next semester starts and a job opens up.

It can take some digging online to find good schools, but many reputable institutions do have a presence on the web and do hire from abroad, though often with at least a couple months of anticipation.
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HLJHLJ



Joined: 06 Oct 2009
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Location: Ecuador

PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best visa to arrive with if possible is a 12-1X, it's technically still a tourist visa, but you are allowed to work on it, and it can be converted to a full work visa once you are here and employed. It's valid for 180 days.

If you arrive on a regular tourist visa (90 days max), theoretically it can't be converted to a work visa, and you would need to go back to your home country and apply for the new visa. In practice, there are still ways around this, and employers will help with that (and fund at least some of the cost) if they really want you.

But in terms of smoothing the way when you first arrive, and making yourself as employable as possible, it's worth putting the time and effort in to get the 12-1X beforehand, if you can.
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