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johnslat



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dear Valaki,

But have you lived in the Middle East, especially in Saudi Arabia?

Regards,
John
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sauditeacher



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Valaki wrote:
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have heard of some urban schools that are so desperate to get teachers that they have brought in foreigners. They are in neighborhoods where Americans are afraid to teach... for good reason.


In the land of the second amendment? Sign me up....


Valaki,

If you wish to teach public school in the US, and have at least a 1st degree but do not have the req'd US State (or your nation's) certification to teach public school, there is the ACP (Alternative Certification Program) option. Details of one ACP (of many nationwide) here: http://www.texasteachers.org/

And as per the above, some of the more-desperate school districts will hire and sponsor foreigners (for US visa purposes) but only for some teaching areas/specialties. eg. check out http://www.aliefisd.net

One option, post certification (& NB: the above ACP leads to certification after only 1 year; others may take 2 years) is to head overseas to teach with international schools, that often (usually?) offer significantly better packages than ESL employers.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mr Valaki and I have been discussing this option by PM. Most of the large urban area have these programs to try to get teachers in the more dangerous school districts.

Since he isn't certified to teach in his home country, he wouldn't be eligible for the higher paying International Schools. Again he would only be able to get the lower pay/conditions schools.

VS
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sauditeacher



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
veiledsentiments wrote:

...Since he isn't certified to teach in his home country, he wouldn't be eligible for the higher paying International Schools. Again he would only be able to get the lower pay/conditions schools. VS


Ms VS, I am a tad confused by the above. Please tell me if the following differs from your understanding.

Once Mr Valaki obtains certification (Texas or other US state) he would be eligible to teach for the higher paying Int'l Schools overseas, true? i.e. he would not need to be certified to teach in his (European) home country to be eligible to teach for the higher paying Int'l Schools.

And incidentally, I have seen ads encouraging US-certified public school teachers to teach in the UK. So it would appear that he could, once US certified, also teach in the UK; and perhaps also in his homeland?

NB: Caveat emptor: some jurisdictions - eg. Canada's Yukon, next door to Alaska - will accept foreign certification, but only if it meets stated minimum standards. I suspect that some of the easier ACP programs may not satisfy such requirements.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
We're just mixing up two options. Laughing Right now he isn't eligible for the best International Schools because he has no certification in any country.

Of course, if he joined one of the rush programs in the US, he would then have a US cert/license. I suspect that one must teach a few years to fulfill program requirements. (they would be foolish to make it a revolving door program where teachers just use it to get licensed in a year and pop off)

After that time, of course he would be eligible for the better overseas jobs because they also want to see a few years of experience... not just one or two years in most cases.

VS
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Valaki



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Dear Valaki,

But have you lived in the Middle East, especially in Saudi Arabia?

Regards,
John


No I haven't, I see your point.
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Valaki



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
@VS and sauditeacher

Thanks guys, will look into these options.

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And as per the above, some of the more-desperate school districts will hire and sponsor foreigners (for US visa purposes) but only for some teaching areas/specialties. eg. check out http://www.aliefisd.net


Actually, just so you know, my paperwork situation is that I still have an old but valid green card but my reentry permit has expired.

If I wanted to explore US opportunities, I would have to apply to get back in at the embassy here, which could result in simply getting rejected and loosing the card.

Maybe I would have a good chance to succeed if I was already accepted onto one of these ACP programs.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Valaki wrote:
Maybe I would have a good chance to succeed if I was already accepted onto one of these ACP programs.

My knowledge of the US green card rules is very limited, but that idea makes sense. I suspect that this is a question that one of these agencies would probably know the answer to...

I have seen many ads for these jobs on the jobs page. There is one up now for DC Teaching Fellows (some really scary neighborhoods in DC). But the website says US Citizens or Legal Residents. So, you would need to have your visa situation settled first and have moved there already it seems.

VS
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Valaki



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just something else I thought of right now. What would my subject area be in a US public school? I mean, I could teach ESL but teaching English literature as a non-native speaker... is that conceivable at all?!
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