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[scot47]

If you cannot spot the profanity in your post then you do not have the literary skills required for a fiirst degree !

And if you continue to blame others for your failure, you will never grow up. 'My "fiancee" left me. My parents got a divorce. I had depression.'

Welcome to the world of the grown-ups where life is tough.

[Irish Blood English Heart]

You're such a nice guy. Thanks for making a random attack on someone you don't even know and not being man enough to admit that you were wrong on how you read the post which I put up on here to help Aimee.

I know what a profanity is, and I also know that where i'm from By Jaysus is not seen as blasphemy or a cuss. If i'd have wrote the name of the person who died on the cross than yes that would have been blasphemy (not that im religous so to me it wouldnt have meant anything), however I deliberately posted a traditional irish phrase instead to not cause offence and that would get my point accross equally.

However your still attacking me personally, saying some very hurtful things just to deflect from the fact you were wrong regarding your Poland remark. Why cant you let it go instead of launching into a personal attack on me and trying to prevoke me to use some real profanities!

Also your last remark was very unfair, I have known several people with dyslexia who didnt have a great grasp of the English language due to their condition who have gone onto achieve great degrees in all manner of fields; medicine, science, social science, maths etc etc

[lajzar]

[Irish Blood English Heart]

[Irish Blood English Heart]

Anyway im sorry that your thread has gone off in a surprising direction Aimee, if you have any questions at all about the Republic of Ireland dont hesitate to get in touch.

As for the other matter lets just leave it now eh? I wont be posting anymore on the subject so if you feel you must have the last word Scot than go ahead but I shall not be rising to it again should you feel the need to insult me or my intelligence yet again. Hopefully though we can both let it go now though yeah and get back to the matter in hand?

[aimee821]

English heart....I appreciated your reply to me......you were probably the only nice one........and I understand why you aonder how someone could attack you----but I noticed a lot of people on here arent so helpful--they offer short statements with little or no encouragement---and usually they assume that the person odesnt have the degree or qualifications etc...and their responses are negative-----when someone responds like that It says alot more about THEM then you---I am almost finished with my B.A....but if you read the above post someone thought I was going to move to Ireland tomorrow without a completed degree----to be honest Id rather have no replies then short negative ones----It makes me think only one thing---they must be cynical for a reason---burnt out, older, arrogance...but its not about you....and I DO appreciate your advice you offered me........

[Irish Blood English Heart]

Cheers, im sorry I never got back to your PM before by the way. I meant do but didnt have the infomation to hand to reply and just havent got around to it since. Anyway i'll have another go and if you have anything you want to ask me about Ireland, The UK or Europe go ahead and i'll tell you all I can

[naturegirl321]

[aimee821]

yes nature girl, I realize that it will take a lot of work.....the main thing here is that I want to live in the UK. And maybe I should get certified to teach secondary school and or a MA as well......I posted because I want to find out what other skills or cert's etc I should acquire.......there is probably very minimal opportunites teaching English--but just like we need English teachers here---an English speaking-----Im pretty sure they need them too:)

[cimarch]

Hi Aimee, hope you haven't given up on Ireland, it shouldn't be as difficult as most people say.
1. Ireland supports dual-citizenship with most countries so you shouldn't lose anything by claiming it.
2. Higher Education is free to Irish citizens
3. If I remember correctly from my school yearbook the vast majority of my Secondary school teachers only had a Bachelor's Degree and a H. Dip. Ed. (Higher Diploma in Education), one or two (order teachers) only had the H. Dip. Ed.
4. A warning, the cost of living in Ireland is quite high, accomodation in particular can be VERY expensive, depending on location. If you want to live in Dublin it's crazy but the smaller (i.e. tiny) towns and cities are still very cheap. However there are many grant systems if you plan to study before working.
5. Contact some schools, they will be able to give you some advice and help, as well as giving you some idea of the job market.
6. Not wanting to come across as too Republican but Ireland is not part of the UK, making that mistake in certain areas can still land you in a whole HEAP of trouble. If you meant that you want to use Ireland as a stepping stone to England then I apologise but it is an all too common mistake.

[khmerhit]

Dear Aimee and Irish Blood,

Thank you for your inquiry concerning SCOT47.

We are sorry to hear of your disappointing experience in using the Newbie Forum and we regret any misunderstanding that may have occurred in your encounters with the contributor.

Just for your information, SCOT47 is not a real person. It is a pedagogical training service instituted by Dave.

SCOT47 is a computer-generated behavioural response mechanism which is designed to simulate real-life scenarios characterized by conflict, negativity, frustration and institutional resistance. It can provide authentic, spontaneous and reflexive negative feedback for the purpose of preparing ESL professionals for negative experiences they are likely to encounter at all stages of their teaching career---for the neophyte who is just starting out, to the seasoned and well-travelled expert, to the veteran of the ESL classroom.

SCOT47 was originally a pilot computer program created by educational psychologists working at the University of Glasgow under the auspices of the Ministry of Defense, with the collaborative input of German scientists. German knowledge of Gestapo interrogation and provocation techniques was deemed invaluable by Allied education researchers in the post-war period. Certain aspects of the CELTA pedagogical and methodological aims, later to be developed at the University of Cambridge, originated in the early DARKSCOT prototype of 1946. Behavioural experiments carried out during this period remain shrouded in controversy to this day.

Recent SCOT47 programs are intended to duplicate the often arbitrary and contingent real-life situations encountered in the field by ESL and other Educational professionals with decades of experience. Raw narrative, documentary and anecdotal data from contributors have been compiled to form randomly generated negative scenarios of every conceivable type, allowing users of the program to experience unmediated and spontaneous hostile responses. A given reaction to SCOT47-generated provocation is then monitored and recorded by a central databank in the DAVECAFE auto-response-tracking matrix. A full reaction log is housed for research purposes in the Educational Psychology Department of the University of California at Davis, California.

If you have any further questions regarding the SCOT47 program, or if you wish to inquire about behavioural feedback to your personal responses to the program's activities, please send an e-mail to:

[email protected]

Thank You.

[ChicagoCubMike]

Uh-huh.

Aimee, I'd say get your Irish Passport no matter what. Even if you don't teach in Ireland, it's an EU passport all the same, so you can work legally in any European Union country. As in, whenever and wherever you want to for the rest of your life. That's a pretty big deal.

Like your email back from OASIS said, as long as you have at least one great-grandparent born in Ireland, and you can document their birth, and all the births and marriages leading up to you (this can be the tricky part), then you can claim Irish citizenship. You just need to bring those documents to the nearest embassy or consulate, along with two passport photos and a way to pay, fill out a form, and wait for your EU passport to arrive in the mail.

There is no legal restriction whatsoever, either in the US or in Ireland, when dual-citizenship is a fact of birth. As a sole US citizen, you cannot decide to one day apply to Ireland or any other country for citizenship and think the U.S. will happily let you do that. However, because of your birth history, at the moment you were born you were a dual citizen already. Persons in this situation, like you (and me), face no legal restriction or sanction from holding two passports, one American, and one from the EU.

The ONLY caveat is that Ireland cannot protect you from the American legal system when you're in the U.S., and the U.S. cannot protect you from the Irish legal system when you're in Ireland. That's because unless you renounce one of your citizenships, Ireland will only recognize you as an Irish citizen when you're there, and the U.S. will only recognize you as an American citizen when you're here.

Anyhow, it's your birthright, and if nothing else, it will let you stand on the shorter, EU customs lines at border crossings into and out of the EU (or between the UK and France on Eurostar).

All of which reminds me, dammit, my Irish passport expired this month. And I looked so thin on it, too...