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Is the EFL profession still a good idea? Part II
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wildchild



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 6:00 am    Post subject: Is the EFL profession still a good idea? Part II Reply with quote

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Definitely YES, but I hasten to mention that people looking to come to Mexico and make money probably shouldn't come.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the future on any thread on the Mexico forum (or any forum on this board for that matter) if you feel you are being attacked, please report the matter to the Mod Team as soon as possible.

For the record, the Mexico forum will not become the only forum on this board where opposing opinions cannot be expressed because some people don't like to read them.

If you happen to disagree with this policy to the extreme, you may want to start spending your time elsewhere before the decision is made for you.

You may assume the Mod Team will be giving the Mexico forum special attention going forward.

This warning was posted on Part 1 of this thread incident to its being locked and is being posted on Part 2 so that everyone starts off with the same game rules.
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Professor



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Is the EFL profession still a good idea? Part II Reply with quote

wildchild wrote:
Definitely YES, but I hasten to mention that people looking to come to Mexico and make money probably shouldn't come.


I second that. Very Happy
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Isla Guapa



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Is the EFL profession still a good idea? Part II Reply with quote

Professor wrote:
wildchild wrote:
Definitely YES, but I hasten to mention that people looking to come to Mexico and make money probably shouldn't come.


I second that. Very Happy


Is there a difference between going to a country to "make money" and to "make a decent living"? Just wondering, not trying to start a war of words Confused Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Is the EFL profession still a good idea? Part II Reply with quote

Isla Guapa wrote:
Professor wrote:
wildchild wrote:
Definitely YES, but I hasten to mention that people looking to come to Mexico and make money probably shouldn't come.


I second that. Very Happy


Is there a difference between going to a country to "make money" and to "make a decent living"? Just wondering, not trying to start a war of words Confused Smile


People go for many reasons and sometimes those reasons change. But I think we should be able to find a way to shift gears from "I'll try it and see if I like it, so a job at a lingo school for 6 months is OK" to "Now I really want to stay here and after 2 years doing lingo schools and classes, isn't there a clear career path"?
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Professor wrote:
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"Now I really want to stay here and after 2 years doing lingo schools and classes, isn't there a clear career path"?


This is where it's going to depend on a number of things coming together (in addition to a job vacancy). A teacher's local reputation, length of time in Mexico, networking skills with those in key hiring positions, and classroom track-record, will all play a part as far as scoring a coveted position (and retaining it at contract renewal time).
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TeresaLopez



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:28 am    Post subject: Re: Is the EFL profession still a good idea? Part II Reply with quote

Prof.Gringo wrote:

People go for many reasons and sometimes those reasons change. But I think we should be able to find a way to shift gears from "I'll try it and see if I like it, so a job at a lingo school for 6 months is OK" to "Now I really want to stay here and after 2 years doing lingo schools and classes, isn't there a clear career path"?


Yes, of course there is. I know many people who have worked in those language schools you hate so much that have steadily risen through the years. One, who now owns a franchise, two who are teacher trainers, several who write curriculum. No, you don't start out making big bucks, but you can make enough to live a comfortable, if somewhat frugal, lifestyle from the beginning. Just for the record, teachers at most Catholic schools in the US make little enough that they qualify for food stamps. Teaching, as a profession, is not particularly well paid most places in the world. The reason for wanting to teach probably shouldn't be wanting to get rich.
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reddevil79



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:16 am    Post subject: Well... Reply with quote

Thanks Teresa, good to see some balance being brought to this discussion. I too think that it is possible to make a decent living and save some money in Mexico.

During my three years working at a university in Southern Mexico I was on a good, but not fantastic salary. During that time I was able to go on two backpacking trips through Central America, a week�s break in San Francisco, a flight home to the UK for Christmas, and take several trips to the beach / city breaks. Also, being a sucker for gadgets, I splashed out from time to time on the latest gizmo, be it an ipod or whatever. My salary in Mexico also went some way to funding my Masters in London which I�ll be starting soon.

Granted, I was single and tended to live frugally, but I certainly don�t subscribe to the view that Mexico is a place to work short term, get out and go somewhere else where you can make real money have a career.
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