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chrissytooth



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:49 am    Post subject: Travel in Rural Japan Reply with quote

I have noticed that both JET and Interac are looking to hire teachers to live in rural areas right now. I do not have a driver's license. I know that Japan has a comprehensive transportation system, so is it comprehensive enough to accommodate rural living without a car? I don't really care where I live in Japan, but I need to be able to get around, obviously. Thanks for your help.
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flyer



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, I suppose it depends very much on your definition of "rural".
I have lived in a J city with no car and I now live in a rural area.
And I have to say, I can't imagine living with out a car here, but I am in Hokkaido and I am sure many rural areas in Honshu would have slightly better transport (??). But, having said that, you could hardly have much of a social life! (IMO)
If you are talking about just a few months, sure you could get by, but if you are talking about years, then I think a car is necessary. But again, it all depends on the population of your town and if you are on a main road between reasonable sized towns/cities (I am not) and how much you are willing to put up with
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kotoko



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ALTs have always been more in demand in the countryside than in cities. Our main job is not teaching but being a foreign face in places where there wouldn't normally be any.

There are some seriously rural areas where you would need a car, but my rural place (small city in Mie) does not require me to have a car. I do have a scooter though which is a big life saver. Most people get by on bicycles. Wherever you go though, there will be other foreigners who will know the best way to get around/have a car so you can always ride with them.
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Lyrajean



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are looking at JET, I believe there is a place on the application where they ask you if you are willing to drive while in Japan. They may take that into some consideration when choosing where to place you. then again they often seem to place people willy-nilly where they happen to need them.

You can also say you prefer a urban placement, then again most of their placements are in rural areas. Okinawa has a fair number of urban placements (maybe because the dispatch companies haven't made inroads here yet. then you can also get stuck on Kita Daito, Minami Daito, or Ie Jima and half a dozen other islands so small they don't have a single department store or an airport.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Travel in Rural Japan Reply with quote

chrissytooth wrote:
I have noticed that both JET and Interac are looking to hire teachers to live in rural areas right now.
No, they have done it for decades.

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I do not have a driver's license. I know that Japan has a comprehensive transportation system, so is it comprehensive enough to accommodate rural living without a car? I don't really care where I live in Japan, but I need to be able to get around, obviously. Thanks for your help.
I live in a city of 170,000, and the bus system is horrible. Most Japanese families have 2 cars here. Biking in winter is unthinkable. There is no subway or train.

If you plan to go with JET, strongly consider getting a driver's license first. You can use an international drivers permit the first year here, but you still have to have a valid license to get that. After the first year on the IDP, you'll have to prove you used your home license 3 months before you came here, because at that point you'll need to get a Japanese license, and that's the requirement for some countries.
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flyer



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Hokkaido and a lot of northern Honshu biking is impossible in the winter so it depends on the place

Many ALT jobs require you to visit more than 1 school, even in 1 day. So I would think a car would be necessary in 80% of rural ALT jobs?
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chrissytooth



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rakuten



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know many people from PKC and Aeon that have been placed in "rural" locations. However, I have a friend from Aeon who told me that Aeon prohibits their teachers from owning/driving a car in Japan- so even if you are placed in a rural area and wanted to drive/get a car, you can't.

I think the same goes for Amity, but I am not 100% sure about that.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rakuten wrote:
Aeon prohibits their teachers from owning/driving a car in Japan- so even if you are placed in a rural area and wanted to drive/get a car, you can't.


If this is really in the contract, then I REALLY doubt that it's enforceable.

A truly rural place likely won't have any eikaiwa, anyway. Any of those companies should get you something close to at least a train station.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chrissytooth wrote:
This is all good information. I will rule out rural living now. The issue is that I got my license revoked and can't get a new one, so I have no choice other than to travel by bus and train. Will any of the big schools be likely to place me in a big city, or does every one of them want teachers in rural areas? I have been considering ECC, Amity, Aeon, and PKC.
Schools put people where they have the vacancies, but if they know you are unable to drive, they may reconsider. Heck, they may reconsider hiring you, not just where they place you!

Rakuten wrote:
I have a friend from Aeon who told me that Aeon prohibits their teachers from owning/driving a car in Japan
I'm sorry, but they can't stop people from buying a car. That's a police-state mentality, and there is no way they can enforce that. Might as well say you can't buy a TV or bicycle!

What they are probably afraid of is the liability if you have an accident using the car for official purposes. That's different.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rakuten wrote:
I know many people from PKC and Aeon that have been placed in "rural" locations. However, I have a friend from Aeon who told me that Aeon prohibits their teachers from owning/driving a car in Japan- so even if you are placed in a rural area and wanted to drive/get a car, you can't.

I think the same goes for Amity, but I am not 100% sure about that.


how strange! why???
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Rakuten



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly, I'm not sure. I'm just saying what my friend who works for Aeon told me. I have no idea if that is just maybe his branch school and their individual school policy, or an overall Aeon policy- as I looked on their website and didn't see any mention of it.

I don't know if it's in the official contract/terms of employment or not- as it may just be a regional thing, or a "policy" that is not strongly enforced outside of school grounds, as some schools may consider it a liability.

Regardless, it was mentioned to me a while ago and when I saw this topic and how the OP was considering these companies or life in rural Japan, it reminded me of that conversation. This was also a few years ago- so things may have changed.
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chrissytooth



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, does anyone know if ECC, Aeon, Amity, or PKC would be willing to place a new teacher (with a BA and TEFL certification) in a city where travel solely via train and bus is possible? If not, do you know who would do that? Or is Japan just all about rural teaching now?
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Bread



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chrissytooth wrote:
So, does anyone know if ECC, Aeon, Amity, or PKC would be willing to place a new teacher (with a BA and TEFL certification) in a city where travel solely via train and bus is possible? If not, do you know who would do that? Or is Japan just all about rural teaching now?


Again, those companies have very few if any branches located so deep in the countryside that you don't have access to trains or buses. They need customers, after all. "Countryside" positions (that is, a lonely train station an hour from a major city) will almost certainly give you an apartment close to the school. I really wouldn't worry about it.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chrissytooth wrote:
So, does anyone know if ECC, Aeon, Amity, or PKC would be willing to place a new teacher (with a BA and TEFL certification) in a city where travel solely via train and bus is possible?
I'm not sure what you are driving at here (no pun intended). Are you saying that a person with those qualifications is above such a posting?

You go where they have the job openings. The openings are where they have students interested in attending classes, whether in the heart of a metropolis or in the countryside.
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