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killian

does such count as "certified teacher" for teaching abroad purposes?

Montanaland · Joined: 20 Dec 2009 Posts: 60 Location: Bakken Oil Field

Sure does! ...and congrats!

If I were you I would head to the ME and bank for a couple of yrs while vacationing where ever your heart desires.

Glenski · Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

I am not sure. Don't substitute teachers work mostly part-time? What's the difference between your certificate and a full-time teachers teaching license?

Montanaland · Joined: 20 Dec 2009 Posts: 60 Location: Bakken Oil Field

I'm sorry I didn't read your subject line well enough.

Is it a 4yr or graduate degree that is certified by o.p.i.? If not I'm afraid its useless. Here in MT I can get on the sub list with my business degree...but I make more as a paraprofessional.

johnslat · Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:41 pm Post subject:

Dear killian,

I believe it will depend on what your state requires for a substitute license. And it can vary considerably from state to state:

Alabama
"Local school district policies generally govern hiring; an applicant must have a high school diploma and a negative TB skin test. Must obtain license from state (about $10). Some systems hold training sessions prior to opening of school year. Local systems set own reimbursement schedule for substitutes; state reimburses local system $35 per day. Not much success recruiting because of low pay and no payroll deduction for part-time. There are no exemplary substitute teacher programs."

Washington

"Recent graduates of teaching programs, who once might have spent a year or two as substitutes, are instead hired directly out of school. Substitutes' pay averages about $100 per day in the region - $12.50 per hour - though it increases with longer-term assignments. One district offered bonus pay for substitutes, giving them $200 extra for every 20 days they work in the district. State guidelines govern the credentials necessary to substitute teach: Substitutes must have a bachelor's degree and a teaching certificate. Substitutes have collective bargaining rights."

Illinois requires a minimum BA, but I don't think a substitute license from that state would be considered as being equal to a regular "certified" license.

http://www.nea.org/home/14813.htm

Regards,
John

killian · Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:35 pm Post subject:

yes, it can seem unclear. i see lotsa ads specifying "state certified teacher". having a certificate issued from a state does mean i am state certified.

seems clearly in a gray area to me. in my own eyes, i am not a real "certified teacher" but the ads are rife with imprecision and ambiguities.

in illinois, one must provide seal transcripts for a BA or higher and about fifty bucks and a TB clearance.

Glenski · Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

Another thing to consider is whether you plan to apply for international school jobs. In Japan (and I presume many other countries), just the certificate/license is not enough. You will also need 2 years of teaching experience in your home country.

Big Poppa Pump · Joined: 28 May 2010 Posts: 167

In Arizona what sort of classes are these high school graduate substitutes covering? I guess if it is PE that's not too much of a drama, but advanced physics or calculus might represent an issue or two.

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Bit frightening to say the least.

Still, Killian, put it on your resume and specify Substitute Teacher.. Couldn't hurt..

johntpartee · Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 3258

robertokun · Joined: 27 May 2008 Posts: 199

Hate to rain on your parade, but having your sub certificate doesn't make you a certified teacher, no matter how you slice it. It just means you're eligible to be a sub. If you're looking for jobs in China or wherever else you might as well try to pass it off as if you were, though. If you get called out on it, who cares. If you don't you might score a decent job.

http://www.isbe.state.il.us/