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TEFL courses-CELTA or nothing?

 
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Slanted & Enchanted



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:04 pm    Post subject: TEFL courses-CELTA or nothing? Reply with quote

Having taught in a small country in East Asia for a few years, I've decided to step up from being a complete phony and to get a TESOL qualification, even though it might only be deemed as "entry-level".

Nevertheless, I'd like to improve my teaching and my grammar and thus I need to do a course (and more in the future). Ideally, I'd like to work in SE Asia for a year or two, and then move to China as I think the ESL scene is getting better there.

I'd like to do the course in either Thailand or Vietnam, two countries that have a low cost of living (I know things are relative) and are places where I'd be interested in working.

The problem is, there are so many TESOL courses out there! My reading on these forums has led me to believe that a) the courses are only as good as the instructors b) the courses are only good for the country you want to work in (except CELTA and Trinity) c) if you're going to spend over US $1000 on a course, it should only be CELTA or Trinity.

Am I correct in my research? Should I ONLY be looking at a CELTA or Trinity?

I found a course in Thailand that is 6 weeks long. That attracts me as it's less intense than the 4 week CELTA course, but I'm not sure if it's that recognized as a good qualification for outside of Thailand.

In short, I've 4 years of classroom experience with young learners, but all teaching methods has been self-taught. I want to step up and improve myself, I want to stay in Asia so what's the best course for me? I'm leaning towards CELTA and later doing the add on CELTYL. I don't mind working with kids, but I'd like to move onto adults, however, I want to be more confident with my English ability when I make that change.

Thanks for any comments.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SIT is also pretty good. But there are lots and lots of non-brand courses that are also good. Try emailing or contacting people who have done the programs and asking for their feedback.
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Slanted & Enchanted



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not much happening on the old newbie front......

I guess it's worth spending the extra money and getting a CELTA, it seems to be the one with the best name. It's just that I hear it's so intense, I'd rather take my time with a 6 week course.
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rbc089



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's worth investing in a Trinity or CELTA. I recently finished my Trinity CertTESOL, and although it was intense, the subject matter isn't actually very difficult. As long as you hone your time management skills and stay away from the bars for a month, at least during the week, you should be fine.

For most people, particularly those without experience, the teaching practice was the most challenging aspect of the course. For me this also turned out to be the most enjoyable and rewarding part of the course, but it was nervewracking standing up in front of a class for the first time, while being observed/assessed. However, you've already got three years of experience, so this part of the course shouldn't be as stressful for you! That said, you'll still need to take on board any criticism from the trainers, even if you do not agree with them. The Trinity course was fairly prescriptive, and trainers expect you to follow a rigid lesson plan throughout the 4 weeks.

In summary, I think it'll be worthwhile for you. Even the trainees with prior esl experience still felt that they had learnt a lot by the end of the course. And you never know, in a few years time you may want to teach somewhere where a Trinity/CELTA is required.

If you have any specific comments about the Trinity course, I'd be more than happy to help.
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Daddyo



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:30 am    Post subject: Indeed Reply with quote

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What makes you think you're a phoney?
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Slanted & Enchanted



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rbc089 wrote:
I think it's worth investing in a Trinity or CELTA. I recently finished my Trinity CertTESOL, and although it was intense, the subject matter isn't actually very difficult. As long as you hone your time management skills and stay away from the bars for a month, at least during the week, you should be fine.

For most people, particularly those without experience, the teaching practice was the most challenging aspect of the course. For me this also turned out to be the most enjoyable and rewarding part of the course, but it was nervewracking standing up in front of a class for the first time, while being observed/assessed. However, you've already got three years of experience, so this part of the course shouldn't be as stressful for you! That said, you'll still need to take on board any criticism from the trainers, even if you do not agree with them. The Trinity course was fairly prescriptive, and trainers expect you to follow a rigid lesson plan throughout the 4 weeks.

In summary, I think it'll be worthwhile for you. Even the trainees with prior esl experience still felt that they had learnt a lot by the end of the course. And you never know, in a few years time you may want to teach somewhere where a Trinity/CELTA is required.

If you have any specific comments about the Trinity course, I'd be more than happy to help.


Thanks for your reply. It looks like I'll have a crack at the CELTA, I found a centre that fits in with some travel plans I have and CELTA along with Trinity seem to be the best branded courses to take.
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Slanted & Enchanted



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:48 am    Post subject: Re: Indeed Reply with quote

Daddyo wrote:
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What makes you think you're a phoney?
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Just my humble opinion, but to call yourself a "teacher", one should have at least the bare minimum of training and some kind of recognized certificate before you stand up in front of a bunch of fee paying students. I realize some people without training are great teachers, and some teachers with a certificate are poor teachers but I'd like some formal training all the same.
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coledavis



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you're thinking of going to more than one country, then you need to be serious. Do CELTA/Trinity.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

coledavis wrote:
As you're thinking of going to more than one country, then you need to be serious. Do CELTA/Trinity.


I think you're right.
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