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dghjarrett
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 Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:02 am Post subject: Moving To Teach - How Easy With Partner?? |
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Hey everyone,
I am a 1-year qualified English Teacher with a CELTA certificate currently living and teaching in Berlin. My girlfriend (partner) and I want to move somewhere else next year. We are looking at Eastern Europe or maybe Asia / South America at a push.
The difficulty is that I am the only one with a CELTA certificate and she is not a qualified English Teacher and is Italian. How easy is it to find jobs that are accepting of a partner coming along and help with any VISA's???
Does it make it more difficult to find jobs / accommodation etc? If so, are there any tips anyone could give me on how to proceed?
Thanks in advance...
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jonniboy
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You need to be more specific. It depends what you mean by "Asia" or "Eastern Europe." Depending on the definition of the latter that could mean anything from the Czech Republic to Kazakhstan! Where specifically are you thinking of teaching? If it's EU countries in that region then the fact that she's Italian will make things much much easier for you both. The more important question though is does she have any specific skills that will enable her to find work in the regions that you're thinking of? If the answer is no then you need to think very carefully about whether you'll be able to bring her along and support her. If you or her can do that then the question of whether employers want her coming along or not is irrelevant as it's none of their business.
A year's experience isn't a lot and entry level jobs in Eastern Europe and South America aren't exactly known for their generous salaries and compensation packages. |
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tttompatz
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:14 am Post subject: Re: Moving To Teach - How Easy With Partner?? |
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| dghjarrett wrote: |
Hey everyone,
I am a 1-year qualified English Teacher with a CELTA certificate currently living and teaching in Berlin. My girlfriend (partner) and I want to move somewhere else next year. We are looking at Eastern Europe or maybe Asia / South America at a push.
The difficulty is that I am the only one with a CELTA certificate and she is not a qualified English Teacher and is Italian. How easy is it to find jobs that are accepting of a partner coming along and help with any VISA's???
Does it make it more difficult to find jobs / accommodation etc? If so, are there any tips anyone could give me on how to proceed?
Thanks in advance...
Daniel |
Do you have a degree? Do you have a passport from one of the major anglophone countries?
IF yes and yes then those, coupled with your CELTA will mean the world is your oyster.
IF you answer NO to either of those questions then you are severely limited in your options.
Hard to give accurate advice based on what you wrote.
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dghjarrett
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We are both University educated (Me to BSc and my girlfriend to MSc). I hold a British Passport and she holds an Italian Passport.
She has taught both Italian and English but only privately and does not have any formal qualifications in teaching.
My question was also in relation to VISA's / Accommodation for some countries especially in S.America. If they sorted out Visa for me then I presume they wouldn't for my girlfriend and this would also apply to accommodation.
Would the situation change if marriage was involved?
many thanks |
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Glenski
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:19 pm Post subject: Re: Moving To Teach - How Easy With Partner?? |
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| dghjarrett wrote: |
| The difficulty is that I am the only one with a CELTA certificate |
Normally, certification is not even considered here in Japan. With the flooded market nowadays here, though, who can say?
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| and she is not a qualified English Teacher and is Italian. |
This will be the biggest hurdle -- her nationality. If she intends to teach mostly English, there will be visa concerns, as in Japan she'll need to have 12-13 years of all her education all in English. If she gets the majority of work teaching Italian, different story, but there isn't that much call to teach Italian in Japan. Some, but not much.
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| how easy is it to find jobs that are accepting of a partner coming along and help with any VISA's??? |
I would say that the only employer willing to help both of you with visa sponsorship would be a big place that teaches more than one language (e.g., Berlitz). Otherwise, if she can't meet immigration requirements for her visa as I mentioned above, she's on her own. Not many places hire couples, married or otherwise, because of various concerns. Do a search here and you'll read examples why.
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| Does it make it more difficult to find jobs / accommodation etc? |
Accommodation, no. Jobs, yes, as I've explained.
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| Would the situation change if marriage was involved? |
A bit unnatural way of stating it, if you don't mind my saying. If you 2 get married, and one of you gets a job, the other can file for a dependent visa easily and work PT. If you both want FT work, you'll each have to get a work visa.
I'm not clear on one thing...are you planning to work in the same office? |
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Zero
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| Tee hee ... I think it's funny how Britsh use the term "partner" so liberally. To an American, "my partner" is a euphemism for "my homosexual lover." |
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Perilla
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| In most countries you might go to, if your girlfriend doesn't have a job she won't get a work visa, which means she will be limited to the standard entry visa for an EU citizen - which is often three months, but varies from country to country. If you get married she will be allowed to stay on your visa (a dependent visa) - and she would also be able to work in many (but not all) countries. |
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natsume
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| Tee hee ... I think it's funny how Britsh use the term "partner" so liberally. To an American, "my partner" is a euphemism for "my homosexual lover." |
I think when gay people use the term it is to indicate that they are far more than simply lovers. I've known plenty of straight couples in the states who have used the term. It is a way of clarifying that they are indeed a serious, long term couple, just not married for whatever reason. It has a bit more solidity than "boyfriend/girlfriend." |
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tttompatz
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| dghjarrett wrote: |
We are both University educated (Me to BSc and my girlfriend to MSc). I hold a British Passport and she holds an Italian Passport.
She has taught both Italian and English but only privately and does not have any formal qualifications in teaching.
My question was also in relation to VISA's / Accommodation for some countries especially in S.America. If they sorted out Visa for me then I presume they wouldn't for my girlfriend and this would also apply to accommodation.
Would the situation change if marriage was involved?
many thanks |
OK.
Bachelors degree means YOU can teach ESL just about anywhere on the planet LEGALLY (with work visa and work permits).
Outside of Europe, most places don't give a fig about your CELTA (or any other brand of TESOL cert) provided you have some experience and the BA.
You can work anywhere in Asia or South America and with the addition of your CELTA (and UK passport) you can add all of Europe to your choices as well.
Now as to your girlfriend. She will have problems anywhere outside the EU (visa issues) as a resident or for work.
IF you marry her she can travel as your dependent (dependent family visa) and in some countries will be able to do part-time work (provided she can find an employer).
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Zero
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| I've known plenty of straight couples in the states who have used the term. |
Maybe yuppies in Berkeley or something. Certainly not the linguistic mainstream. |
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natsume
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| I've known plenty of straight couples in the states who have used the term. |
Maybe yuppies in Berkeley or something. Certainly not the linguistic mainstream. |
Which begs the question, what exactly is the "linguistic mainstream", and who decides what it is?
Here are a bunch of yuppies talking about the use of "partner", pro and con:
http://jscms.jrn.columbia.edu/cns/2009-04-14/breger-partner.html |
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Zero
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| Which begs the question, what exactly is the "linguistic mainstream", and who decides what it is? |
The majority or, lacking a majority, a plurality. |
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AGoodStory
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| natsume wrote: |
| I've known plenty of straight couples in the states who have used the term. |
Maybe yuppies in Berkeley or something. Certainly not the linguistic mainstream. |
Zero, it doesn't sound as if you've lived in the US for the past decade or so. Natsume is correct. The term is in common use, and certainly not as a "euphemism for homosexual lover." The choice of the word implies: unmarried, but in a committed relationship. (Unmarried because otherwise, presumably, the speaker would have chosen "wife," or "husband" instead.) There is no implication of gender preference, either gay or straight. I live in a very rural part of New England, and, believe me, if we're hearing it in these backwaters, it has long been part of your "linguistic mainstream." |
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naturegirl321
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I got my husband a dependent visa here. It would have taken heaps of time, money and paperwork for him to get it before he arrived. So he entered on a tourist visa and within 14 days had his passport with new visa, entry permit and ARC mailed to him.
It's easy once you're married, but ASK about working. I know here it's not allowed and if he were caught he could be fined, detained or even deported. |
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naturegirl321
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I like the term partner. Sounds equal, very European and liberal. It's nice. As for South America, YOU getting a visa might be difficult. Go to the Latin American forums. I'd say that Mexico is one of the few countries that readily gets visa.
I can say that only ONE language school in Peru will get you one, and that's only if you recruited from abroad and want to work 6 days a week, 30 hours a week for 700 dollars.
If you can owrk at an intl school, that's a whole different story. |
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