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Working solely as a private tutor a good way to go???

 
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johnshoe118



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:23 pm    Post subject: Working solely as a private tutor a good way to go??? Reply with quote

This question speaks for itself

However, some considerations -

How easy to get tutor jobs? What is the process - Arrive to country (Korea for example) and post fliers? Fliers in english -does that make sense?

Are their orgs that setup private tutoring?

Is this a viable option?


Thanks all!
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are likely going to find different situations in every country, but I think basically you cannot work like that unless you have a valid visa to stay in the country first.

Speaking for Japan, the market here is very competitive, and you are not going to find enough private lessons to live on for at least 6 months or so. With no contacts or experience here, what else would you expect?

There are some online boards that let foreigners register for private lesson classes, and the locals scour them then respond if they are willing. After that, it's up to you to give a demo lesson, state your terms of fees, and hope that they stay with you. Private lesson students here are very fickle and will leave with zero notice.
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:29 am    Post subject: Re: Working solely as a private tutor a good way to go??? Reply with quote

johnshoe118 wrote:
This question speaks for itself

However, some considerations -

How easy to get tutor jobs? What is the process - Arrive to country (Korea for example) and post fliers? Fliers in english -does that make sense?

Are their orgs that setup private tutoring?

Is this a viable option?


Thanks all!


In most countries, unless you have a valid residence permit/visa, it is illegal to just show up and begin a business as a private tutor.

In many countries it is also illegal to become a private tutor if it is outside the range of activities permitted by your work visa/permit so it is effectively illegal to do it on the side - outside of your school.

Can you make a living at it = No, unless you also speak the local language, have contacts and the ability to advertise to your preferred clientele.

Another thing to bear in mind that in many countries the standard of living is lower (sometimes much lower) than home so the ability to charge enough to make a wage out of it becomes very difficult as well.

If you want specific information about it in Korea (where it is a deport-able offense unless you are married to a Korean) you should register on the Korean job forums.

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jonniboy



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:01 am    Post subject: Re: Working solely as a private tutor a good way to go??? Reply with quote

tttompatz wrote:

Can you make a living at it = No, unless you also speak the local language, have contacts and the ability to advertise to your preferred clientele.


Like others I'd say it depends on the country. In Riga it's certainly possible as there isn't a lot of competition here. My friend does just that, rents an office and advertises either through the internet or less often through fliers in the local uni. His language skills are patchy to say the least (sub-elementary in Latvian/can't even read Russian let alone speak it) and he's less contacts than me but seems to manage okay. Last week he told me that he'd 37 clock hours scheduled though 14 of those got cancelled in the end. I'd say the latter factor is more of an issue. You'd need to schedule large amounts of hours in order to cover the inevitable cancellations or alternatively develop a good enough reputation that enough people will pay up well in advance. For me it's just been easier to keep a set number of hours with language centres for guaranteed income and then have privates for saving money/holidays and the like.
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spanglish



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a fun way to live. Use your contacts to get a good job so you don't have to teach privately.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Working solely as a private tutor a good way to go??? Reply with quote

jonniboy wrote:
In Riga it's certainly possible as there isn't a lot of competition here. My friend does just that, rents an office and advertises either through the internet or less often through fliers in the local uni.
It might be just my impression, but I think the OP was thinking of how to do this from day 1, whereas it sounds like your friend already had a job established and some experience in country. If so, huge difference.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of there's a separate Korea forum, so I won't get into country specific details in this post.

But, you're probably going to need a visa to stay legally in the country. Sure, you could stay illegally if you want, but you run risks.

Second, it takes a bit to build up a repuation.

third, students cancel on you,

Fourth, you might spend lots of time going all over town.

Over all, it's tough. I did it for two years. I made just as much teaching privates as working in an intl school, in Peru, so that's not saying much. I supplementing my earnings with teaching at a unviersity and tutoring at a school for kids with LD. It was ok, but I'm glad I have just one job now.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Working solely as a private tutor a good way to go??? Reply with quote

tttompatz wrote:
In many countries it is also illegal to become a private tutor if it is outside the range of activities permitted by your work visa/permit so it is effectively illegal to do it on the side - outside of your school.

Can you make a living at it = No, unless you also speak the local language, have contacts and the ability to advertise to your preferred clientele.

Another thing to bear in mind that in many countries the standard of living is lower (sometimes much lower) than home so the ability to charge enough to make a wage out of it becomes very difficult as well.

If you want specific information about it in Korea (where it is a deport-able offense unless you are married to a Korean) you should register on the Korean job forums.

.


I really hate to disagree with you, but if the OP is talking about teaching privates in general, knowing the local language helps, but sometimes you can luck out. When I taught privates the majortiy of my students were all foreigners. Get contacts at infl schools and you can charge high prices

Though I do agree about checking your contract. I'm pretty sure that in most ocuntries teaching privates is technically illegal, since you're signed on with the school. So I wuldn't brag about it.
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jonniboy



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Working solely as a private tutor a good way to go??? Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
jonniboy wrote:
In Riga it's certainly possible as there isn't a lot of competition here. My friend does just that, rents an office and advertises either through the internet or less often through fliers in the local uni.
It might be just my impression, but I think the OP was thinking of how to do this from day 1, whereas it sounds like your friend already had a job established and some experience in country. If so, huge difference.


No he's been teaching privately from day one. He never worked for a language school here. Though you are right that there is a difference, in his first year he was scraping along on 12-15 hours a week so even in a relatively uncompetitive market like the one here it's tough. For me personally I'd think the best way would be to work for other people in the first couple of years and then branch out on your own when you've enough contacts to phase out the language schools.
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This question gets floated occasionally. I think it's caused by a few things-

Languages schools, and their owners/administrators are frequently (and often rightly) criticised in these parts.

Private lessons cut out the middle man, and often pay more (per hour) than entry level jobs.

Yet...the number of long term EFLers who make their living, or even a substantial part of it, from private classes is fairly low.

Many lifers, like me, will not do private lessons at all.

A private class or two can be a nice supplement to the regular income of a school. (though I will not do it.) But depending on privates exclusively is irregular, and requires a lot of work outside of the hours you're teaching to build up the business.

Also- as long as you're only teaching privately, you're not building experience that helps you later on in the job market.

And you never get out of the "teacher as servant" role, where you're "students" are also your direct employer, entitled to tell you what to do.


I just can't come up with any reasons that a bunch of private students would be better than just getting a good job.

Best,
Justin
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Working solely as a private tutor a good way to go??? Reply with quote

jonniboy wrote:
No he's been teaching privately from day one. He never worked for a language school here. Though you are right that there is a difference, in his first year he was scraping along on 12-15 hours a week
Look at what you wrote -- "scraping along". Do you really want to live like that? Most people don't. Perhaps your friend doesn't care, but I certainly would. Buy him a Latvian beer and have a long chat with him about his peace of mind as far as financial security goes.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second Justin. It's very very stressful. If you were to teach Bueinss English and/ or exam classes, that's one thing. But I-d do it to add to my regular income and just save it all.
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jpvanderwerf2001



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Russia, one can get an entrepreneur license, and then teach private lessons legally. One need only get a special accounting machine and be sure to take out their 13% in tax and they're golden. However (there's always a however in Russia, isn't there Smile), one must have residency first, no small consideration.
I thought about going that route, but I had been here some years and had a rather good set of contacts.
I agree with some of the other posters that getting a good job is generally the way to go.
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