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Interlingua/Berlitz info?
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Germanicus



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:52 pm    Post subject: Interlingua/Berlitz info? Reply with quote

What are either of these companies like to work for as a newbie teacher.I see mixed things. Are they worth working there for the experience? Thanks
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Dragonlady



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Interlingua/Berlitz info? Reply with quote

Germanicus wrote:
I see mixed things.

I've also read mixed reviews here in the Cafe, but ask yourself what it is you're looking for, and how much do you want it.
Either could be the stepping stone to greater things to come. Very Happy

At some point you must be master of your own destiny.
There are probably 10's of thousands ESOL teachers in Mexico, yet a fraction read a/o comment on the Cafe.

Entertain what we say, but in the end what does YOUR gut say?

Regards,
Dragonlady
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pay rates for Interlingua are posted here in a couple of other threads...Berlitz is about the same, so you have an idea as to how much (or how little) you can earn there if wages are a big concern to you. I think Berlitz is a bit better on business English classes than Interlingua. Not sure how much competition there is for that work within Berlitz though.
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wildchild



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are they worth working there for the experience?



it depends on what kind of experience you seek...

if the experience of teaching english for peanuts to engineers who make more in a few hours than you do all day, well then, you'll love it!

Shocked

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What are either of these companies like to work for as a newbie teacher.


that will depend on the people running the school, as they may vary from each franchise.

but, they tend to be corporate and take themselves too seriously.
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Professor



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't do it. You will be lucky to get paid on time...maybe. My experiences were not getting paid the total of what I was owed so I had to get a lawyer. Not for Berlitz or Interlingua but I have had someone tell me they didn't get paid on time at the two schools you mentioned.
And what could you possibly use those two schools as a stepping stone for?? Work for yourself or a coligio. More secure when you compare.
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Enchilada Potosina



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here in SLP:

Berlitz - Bad reputation, teachers leaving in droves, management issues, benefits not being given, visa issues etc.

Interlingua - Cynically removed all benefits from teachers, including seniority which has left some teachers no option but to sue the company.

Pay rates at both: Not more than $80 pesos an hour, minus taxes of course.

Probably not worth it for the experience but if you work for a language school here you're invevitably going to be working for a slave wage.
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mejms



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All true about the low standards, poor pay, etc, but I think the people here who have been teaching for awhile are taking it for granted that an inexperienced foreigner (inexperienced in teaching and in living in another country) could get things going as an independent right away. It takes time, confidence, experience, and networking, I worked for quite a few lousy language schools before getting my feet firmly planted. If you're serious about being here for awhile, consider it paying your dues.
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wildchild



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It takes time, confidence, experience, and networking,...


which if possessed, would serve one best when applied in other fields...

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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:48 am    Post subject: Re: Interlingua/Berlitz info? Reply with quote

Germanicus wrote:
What are either of these companies like to work for as a newbie teacher.I see mixed things. Are they worth working there for the experience? Thanks


They both suck.

You would be better off and possibly find a better situation with one of the other smaller language schools.

But if I had to choose between Interlingua or Berlitz...

Flip a coin I guess!
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MotherF



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Interlingua/Berlitz info? Reply with quote

Prof.Gringo wrote:
Germanicus wrote:
What are either of these companies like to work for as a newbie teacher.I see mixed things. Are they worth working there for the experience? Thanks


They both suck.

You would be better off and possibly find a better situation with one of the other smaller language schools.

But if I had to choose between Interlingua or Berlitz...

Flip a coin I guess!


Surely there would be some other factors, like location, transportation options and travel times???

But I say, skip it, pay your dues in another country, like Japan or Korea. Then come to Mexico with some expirience under your belt.
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Enchilada Potosina



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't have to work in a grotty language school here, it's not obligatory as a first job. You can just as easily get a uni job. Why suffer? Yes, it's easier but more often than not it'll be a bad experience unless you're just coming here to drink in the sun.
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carrizales



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enchilada Potosina wrote:
. You can just as easily get a uni job.

How could I go about that? Could you please post some advice or something?
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wildchild



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How could I go about that? Could you please post some advice or something?


well, for starters, you can google some of the universities in the cities that you are considering, email/call the language dept., let them know that you are coming to visit, and if ask they anticipate any openings...
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carrizales



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm already here. i'm working at berlitz right now, but i wanted to go somewhere else. the thing is, i dont have an actual teachers certificate. i just have my bachelors in history and a TEFL certificate, i got by doing some 4 week course. I taught at berlitz-costa rica for one year, but I dont have an experience teaching at a university level. Should i just call any university? Right now I've just been looking through the newpaper. I had an interview at this middle school but got turned down because I dont have any experience with kids.
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notamiss



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may be the only one who didn't know this, but in case it helps someone else, I mention that universities mostly have a foreign language teaching Unit, or Center, or whatever name it might go by, where students from all disciplines take classes and get tested to meet their foreign language (usually English) requirement for their degree. This is what you're aiming to contact, and it's generally separate and independent of the department where language majors do their studies.
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