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DashGlobal



Joined: 14 Oct 2010
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:05 am    Post subject: What do you guys think? Reply with quote

Hey everyone, just looking to get some feedback or opinions on my rough plan that im fairly confident im going to go through with.

24 y/o with a business degree. My passion is travel right now and I just do not want to put my dreams on hold and start a 9-5 for an uncertain future at this moment in my life.

So ive recently decided to do ESL for the next couple of years. I plan to teach in Colombia the first 6 months to a year. After reading it appears I need to get a CELTA to make myself more qualified for the better jobs in Colombia and elsewhere.

With that said I plan on saving up around 6-10K by May and leave for Ecuador or Bogota to get CELTA certified. Then start visiting schools and universities in Colombia and handing out my CV and talking with directors with getting a decent paying job for the August school terms. And then hopefully work on getting a student or working visa to allow me to stay in Colombia till dec/jan.

At that point ill be out of my initial 8k savings im sure. So what im thinking is to then go to Asia and try and land a good paying job that will allow me to save about 1k per month that will enable me to travel around the world on my 2 months vacation time a year. I would like to do this routine for 2-3 years.

Then after living the dream and traveling the world at age 28 or so reevaluate my life and what I want to do.

I want to be married and start a family around 30 yrs of age. Ill have to relocate back to the US and start a career imo. And my travels/partying/and women days will be numbered or over with a wife and kids.

As far as Aisa goes MOD EDIT because I wouldnt want to get stuck in some rural China Provence with no decent nightclubs or bars and to conservative women. Am i correct in this opinion?

Any pointers or advise would be much appreciated. Or if you have or are doing something similar.
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natsume



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure you are going to get some pointed advice/critiques from other posters, but for starters, where did you get the idea that you will have two months vacation every year?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Postings focusing on living and teaching in Korea must be published on the Korean board and not here on the International board.

Separate registration is required and usernames and passwords do not automatically work on both boards.
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DashGlobal



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

natsume wrote:
I'm sure you are going to get some pointed advice/critiques from other posters, but for starters, where did you get the idea that you will have two months vacation every year?


not necessarily paid vacation but ive seen many posters getting 2-3 months off a yr.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:35 am    Post subject: Re: What do you guys think? Reply with quote

DashGlobal wrote:
I just do not want to put my dreams on hold and start a 9-5 for an uncertain future at this moment in my life.

So ive recently decided to do ESL for the next couple of years.
Look at these two statements. I know what you meant, but to imply (even without knowing) that ESL is not a 9 to 5 job is a slap in the face of every ESL teacher.

It is not fun.
It is not a game.
It is just as much a job as anything else. I hope you treat it that way.


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I want to be married and start a family around 30 yrs of age. Ill have to relocate back to the US and start a career imo.
Be advised that this may or may not happen. You might find you enjoy ESL so much you want to stay in it. But will you be qualified for the long-term or have to get long-distance education to stay in it? On the other hand, how will a 1-3 year gap in your field look on a resume? Think about it.
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Perilla



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO you're young enough to give TEFL a go and if it doesn't work out for you it's no big deal.

Ecuador is a low cost country, so it's a good place to do your CELTA. My advice would then be to look for work there too as you will make contacts during the course. If nothing turns up, Colombia is only a short distance, and also cheap. You may find your savings go a bit further than you think. Good luck.
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coledavis



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TEFL isn't a 9 to 5. It's more like a 1 to 9 (p.m.). Although technically running against Glenski, I'm actually reinforcing his point that TEFL is not a game. (Although I hear tales that some Chinese set-ups can be.)
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coledavis



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perilla wrote:
IMO you're young enough to give TEFL a go and if it doesn't work out for you it's no big deal.

Sorry, don't agree with this. Age is pretty much irrelevant. As you might notice from other threads, there are lots of people trying out TEFL in their 50s and later.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My own situation is more like 8.30 - 18.00, most of the time. Very rarely to 20.00. In Europe, morning classes are generally popular.
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DashGlobal



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 3:22 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you guys think? Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
DashGlobal wrote:
I just do not want to put my dreams on hold and start a 9-5 for an uncertain future at this moment in my life.

So ive recently decided to do ESL for the next couple of years.
Look at these two statements. I know what you meant, but to imply (even without knowing) that ESL is not a 9 to 5 job is a slap in the face of every ESL teacher.

It is not fun.
It is not a game.
It is just as much a job as anything else. I hope you treat it that way.


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I want to be married and start a family around 30 yrs of age. Ill have to relocate back to the US and start a career imo.
Be advised that this may or may not happen. You might find you enjoy ESL so much you want to stay in it. But will you be qualified for the long-term or have to get long-distance education to stay in it? On the other hand, how will a 1-3 year gap in your field look on a resume? Think about it.


ESL can very much be a 9-5 job or a 8am-10am then 8pm -10pm split shift. It can be lots of things. Thats not what i meant when I said 9-5. I was referring to a unsatisfying 9-5 desk type job in the states. And as a matter of fact im praying i get a good 9-5 job teaching ESL because I dont wanna do split shifts lol

"It is not fun" is a pretty assumptuous comment dont you think? Everyone is diff and im sure there are some ppl that enjoy ESL. I dont think im gonna love teaching English per say but ill make the most of it either way.

The reason why im getting a CELTA is to take it serious and that I will actually know how to teach English properly.

I know I wouldnt want to do ESL long term due to family proximity and career growth in another field. Even if i fall in love and get married overseas Id just bring her back to the states, unlikely but possible. The main reason im doing this is for adventure, travel, and exotic women.

Im not much worried about the GAP in the resume. Im gonna follow my dream and heart and let the cards fall as they may.
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coledavis



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the former Soviet Union, evening classes are popular. (I speak not for Moscow and St Petersburg, however, as I've never taught there.)
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santi84



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For an inexperienced teacher, you could probably expect the first while to be all work and no play. Classroom hours are the easy part, most newbies tend to vastly underestimate the amount of prep work involved for a class.

I can honestly say that I did just as much research, writing, and prep work in my one month TESL practicum than I did throughout my university degree. Handing in a poor paper is one thing, but standing in front of 30-50 students and being clueless is another thing altogether.

I think a lot of experienced ESL teachers tend to laugh when newbies completely romanticize TEFL. Those days are long, long gone. Students WILL walk out on your class, challenge poor teaching skills, and complain to your boss - they pay money to learn, not to support romantic dreams.

Having said that, you will do fine. Just don't be shocked when the reality of TEFL hits.
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coledavis



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, preparation is heavy to start with, although don't be too daunted. You will later find that, as long as you add a few additional talking activities, you can lean on the book for the core of your lessons. The hardest work is the course itself, where you prepare everything yourself, followed (as indicated by the previous post) the first month or so of actual teaching, mainly because of the need to organise and preparing in order to feel your way in.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coledavis wrote:
TEFL isn't a 9 to 5. It's more like a 1 to 9 (p.m.). Although technically running against Glenski,
I used to work in conversation school here in Japan. Those jobs, yes, run noonish to 9pm. But there are more openings in the 9 to 5 category.

Public school
Private school
international school
University and community colleges
Some business English schools.

DashGlobal wrote:
"It is not fun" is a pretty assumptuous comment dont you think? ...The main reason im doing this is for adventure, travel, and exotic women.
That's "presumptuous", and you've just made my point.
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TeresaLopez



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is not fun" is a pretty assumptuous comment dont you think? ...The main reason im doing this is for adventure, travel, and exotic women >>>>>>

Does actually doing a good job and teaching your students something enter into those plans at all? Please realize that in a lot of developing countries people sacrifice a LOT of thier disposable income to take English classes in hope of improving their life. Many times they are given a teacher who only really cares about living in an �xotic�country and really couldn�t give a damn about whether the students learn or not. If you are OK with robbing people who really can�t afford it, and doing innocent people hard, onward and upward. But if you have any morals about you, maybe you can find a better way to finance your adventure than robbery.
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