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JRJohn



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:05 pm    Post subject: Should I Teach In Taiwan? Reply with quote

I am an experienced English teacher. I care about teaching. I am really interested in the Far East, and I am interested in the mandarin language. At times I really wish my degree had been in mandarin. I am attracted to the promise of saving money in Taiwan, as I have heard positive stories. I applied for a job with kojen. But I was told I'd have to come to Taiwan before the interview, and before my visa is applied for and their contact told me most teachers there are under 26 and the school dislikes regional accents. So I thought, no.
I am over 26, and have a Scottish accent. I got the impression most buxibans wanted Americans only. I also got the impression that most of the jobs available now are low grade, and with split shifts. Job security is poor, and you only get one day off per week. Is it possible for me to get a better job, in a smaller buxiban, with a kindergarten schedule, or 2 days off per week? I have lots of experience but I don;t have PGCE or DELTA. I have more than enough money to look for a job in Taiwan if I have to.
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romanworld



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:15 am    Post subject: Re: Should I Teach In Taiwan? Reply with quote

JRJohn wrote:
I am an experienced English teacher. I care about teaching.


If that's the case, then don't go to Taiwan.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Should I Teach In Taiwan? Reply with quote

romanworld wrote:
JRJohn wrote:
I am an experienced English teacher. I care about teaching.


If that's the case, then don't go to Taiwan.


You can go but you will need to train your mind that teaching in Taiwan is not real teaching.
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rxk22



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:50 am    Post subject: Re: Should I Teach In Taiwan? Reply with quote

romanworld wrote:
JRJohn wrote:
I am an experienced English teacher. I care about teaching.


If that's the case, then don't go to Taiwan.


That's Japan as well.

I've meet more people in Taiwan in four days who could speak actual English, then in 2 years in Japan. At least you guys produce actual speakers, while Japan does nothing of the sort.
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Geraldo84



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got a job with Shane and they give you two days off per week, check them out. They are run through an agency called Saxoncourt.
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rxk22



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geraldo84 wrote:
I just got a job with Shane and they give you two days off per week, check them out. They are run through an agency called Saxoncourt.

Sahne's from what other people say is up to 6 days a week.

Is the ESl industry in Taiwan in a nose dive as well?
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creztor



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rxk22, definitely.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know. I am doing pretty well teaching English.
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Geraldo84



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rxk22 wrote:
Geraldo84 wrote:
I just got a job with Shane and they give you two days off per week, check them out. They are run through an agency called Saxoncourt.

Sahne's from what other people say is up to 6 days a week.

Is the ESl industry in Taiwan in a nose dive as well?


My contracts has -

C. HOURS OF WORK, WAGES & BONUS

1. The teacher agrees to be available to carry out his/her duties as advised by the Director of Studies. A standard schedule (not including cover) is 5 days/week with Sunday and one other day off.
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markcmc



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's quite a lot of work in Taiwan at the moment. At least, I'm having no problem finding it. Finding a great job is harder of course.

If you are an experienced teacher & care about teaching, then you won't find a good match with 90% or more of private language schools; regardless of country.
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robertokun



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:57 am    Post subject: Re: Should I Teach In Taiwan? Reply with quote

JRJohn wrote:
I am an experienced English teacher. I care about teaching. I am really interested in the Far East, and I am interested in the mandarin language. At times I really wish my degree had been in mandarin. I am attracted to the promise of saving money in Taiwan, as I have heard positive stories. I applied for a job with kojen. But I was told I'd have to come to Taiwan before the interview, and before my visa is applied for and their contact told me most teachers there are under 26 and the school dislikes regional accents. So I thought, no.
I am over 26, and have a Scottish accent. I got the impression most buxibans wanted Americans only. I also got the impression that most of the jobs available now are low grade, and with split shifts. Job security is poor, and you only get one day off per week. Is it possible for me to get a better job, in a smaller buxiban, with a kindergarten schedule, or 2 days off per week? I have lots of experience but I don;t have PGCE or DELTA. I have more than enough money to look for a job in Taiwan if I have to.


Go there and learn yourself some Mandarin, but if you're going to do EFL in Asia, you're going to have to throw your professional values/expectations out the window, as has been said.
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robertokun



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rxk22 wrote:
Geraldo84 wrote:
I just got a job with Shane and they give you two days off per week, check them out. They are run through an agency called Saxoncourt.

Sahne's from what other people say is up to 6 days a week.

Is the ESl industry in Taiwan in a nose dive as well?


Interesting how the Japan vets keep popping up over here, (myself included.) Must be toying with the idea of jumping ship, but finding there's not much to jump to. I was curious about Taiwan too, though, haha....
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Pretentious Parrot



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

markcmc wrote:
There's quite a lot of work in Taiwan at the moment. At least, I'm having no problem finding it. Finding a great job is harder of course.


Actually the market is, and has been for a while, very saturated with teachers. People are having a harder and harder time finding a job that will provide enough hours for an ARC.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretentious Parrot wrote:
markcmc wrote:
There's quite a lot of work in Taiwan at the moment. At least, I'm having no problem finding it. Finding a great job is harder of course.


Actually the market is, and has been for a while, very saturated with teachers. People are having a harder and harder time finding a job that will provide enough hours for an ARC.


That does not mean that there are no jobs. It just means everyone wants a part time teacher. One can earn 80,000 a month but you need to string together a few part time jobs. I agree that getting 80,000 from one employer is difficult.
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creztor



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting 80k from one employer is bloody near impossible. Sorry to sound like I am being harsh, but unless you work somewhere that gives you 30 hours a week of classes and you have been there for several years and have reached the upper limit of 7xxNT an hour, then it is more than difficult to earn that kind of money from one employer (at 600NT an hour, the average starting rate, you would have to work about 33 hours a week to earn that kind of money, good luck). Sure, work two part-time jobs and run yourself into the ground doing kindy in the morning jumping around like a monkey and then teaching afternoon to late evening classes. There are only a few schools that hire on a constant basis and you can see this because they run the same ads year in and year out. You know how small the market really is when you see the same ads popping up again and again. Is there work available? Yes, but more of it is becoming part-time and there are more teachers. When your boss sits you down and tells you that there are fewer students enrolled compared to last year, then you know the market is crap.
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