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mgafunnell



Joined: 29 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:56 pm    Post subject: i love it here Reply with quote

so often, people come to these forums to whine and complain, but not me. i've been in shanghai for 3 years after stints teaching in south korea, poland and canada and i must say that china has been very good to me. i can work as much as i want and make a very nice salary. i live in a nice apartment and met my wife here. i've also made nice friends and have greatly developed my teaching skills. the kids can be a bit naughty sometimes, but once you've been with them long enough, they grow admire you and eventually fall in line.

in canada, where i'm from, i had a decent set-up professionally and personally but i chucked it all on a whim because i got curious about china and i don't regret anything about leaving. i am 36 years old and am experiencing the happiest days i have ever known.

i love it here and i don't intend to leave anytime soon. i'm riding this gravy train to the very last stop.

thank you to my wife. thank you to my employers. thank you to my friends. thank you to my colleagues. thank you china.
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HiddenTreasure



Joined: 03 Oct 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same as me !!

I find it hilarious even comes here and bitch, moan, groan, mouth-off, slam China, degrade China and the people ... it's disgusting and pathetic.

And yet, they stay here.

Clearly there is a reason they stay under such "horrible" conditions and can't return to their own country.

Me? I love it.
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Greg 09



Joined: 30 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like this thread already. Very Happy
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mgafunnell



Joined: 29 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there we go! i think folks should try to look on the bright side of life sometimes. it's good for one's disposition.
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Guerciotti



Joined: 13 Feb 2009
Posts: 842
Location: In a sleazy bar killing all the bad guys.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mgafunnell wrote:
there we go! i think folks should try to look on the bright side of life sometimes. it's good for one's disposition.


OK, OK, I admit it. I like it here, but I've only been here since September.
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xi.gua



Joined: 15 Jul 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.5 years in small towns and i'm still very happy with what i'm doing and where i'm at. Definitely glad I made the trip over here.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Posts: 4946
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was born to whine, hence the name. Laughing

Seriously, I've been 'doing Asia' here for around 10 years now. China (6), Korea (3) Japan (6 mo.) Taiwan (6 mo.) and clearly I am enjoying China better than the other places. But that's just down to dumb luck in getting a decent job.

That said, nowhere is perfect and there is always room for improvement. I doubt I'd still be here if I couldn't move out of the low salary slump.

Happy to see so many happy.
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themanymoonsofjupiter



Joined: 26 Jun 2005
Posts: 205
Location: The Big Link

PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there was at least one thread a few years back where people listed all the things they liked about china. i have no idea what the thread was called or i would search for it, but i believe there were something like 200 things on there. it was good to scroll through whenever i got annoyed with something--i would realise there were a lot more things about china that i liked than disliked.
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daCabbie



Joined: 02 Sep 2007
Posts: 244

PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love it here too...Very Happy

Everyday is like swimming in a pool filled with fresh rose petals. While a Simon and Garfunkel song plays in the background. It's always sunny and warm. Its like being back in my mothers womb. All soft and fuzzy like.Smile

Wow, being positive really does help.Embarassed

Thanks to all the beautiful people here at Dave'sExclamation

We now return you to our originally scheduled program. Wink
Very Happy Smile Embarassed Exclamation Wink
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Matty_Bang



Joined: 02 Nov 2010
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would anybody care to explain what people would be complaining about?? I've not read anything too bad about ESL experiences in China!
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eclipse12



Joined: 03 Nov 2010
Posts: 18

PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People who have bad experiences are more likely to express it to others than those who have positive experiences. That's probably why you see negative things on teaching forums so much.

China is an awesome place but just like anywhere else in the world if you get stuck in a bad job or a bad situation, your entire view will be tainted.

A lot of it really just does come down to a little bit of luck and being at the right place at the right time.
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zootown



Joined: 27 Nov 2009
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HiddenTreasure wrote:
Same as me !!



Clearly there is a reason they stay under such "horrible" conditions and can't return to their own country.

Me? I love it.


They have stayed to long in China can't afford to go back to where they once came from and 10 years teaching English in China won't get you a job in good times let alone bad times in the real world.

So it's stuck in China where the cost of living is going up but their wages are staying the same and chances of keeping there job keep getting difficult remembering all the good old days long since gone.

China No country for old men or women.
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Teatime of Soul



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
Posts: 905

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it is only age, occupation, or outlook but a combination of factors.

Being flexible yet goal oriented, cautiously optimistic while using adult problem solving skills probably prevents most of the bad situations; then one can build up from there.

Cheers to those enjoying China.
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Beyond1984



Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 462

PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:19 am    Post subject: China's Warring States period ended a long time ago. Reply with quote

"there was at least one thread a few years back where people listed all the things they liked about china. -themanymoonsofjupieter

Now 194, my memory fades in and out, but during the mid-term elections last week I was reminded of Red Lobster's declaration:

"I like that there are no stupid circus-style elections." Rolling Eyes -Red

I searched and found the link here:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=56813&highlight=stupid+circusstyle+elections

The topic popped up a second time, here:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=68902&highlight=stupid+circusstyle+elections

-HDT

"How does it become a man to behave toward this American government today? I answer that he cannot without disgrace be associated with it."
-Henry David Thoreau, "On the Duty of Civil Disobedience," 1849 Twisted Evil







The link is here:
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goosiegrl1



Joined: 04 Nov 2010
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 5:12 am    Post subject: wow! Reply with quote

mgafunnell, your story is pretty inspiring. i'm currently looking for teaching positions in china - preferably in shanghai or beijing. several years ago, i taught in japan and loved it. i'm considering going back, but ideally i'd like to go somewhere i've never been, and China is my first choice in that regard. do you have any suggestions on schools that I should apply to? any guidance you can give would be greatly appreciated! CONGRATULATIONS on the wonderful life you've created, and I hope to hear from you soon!

best,
goosiegrl1
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