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think_balance
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 Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:26 pm Post subject: Where to teach? Income & Benefits vs Cost of Living |
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Hello,
I am finishing up my M.A. TESOL in Spring 2011. After getting two years experience teaching at an adult school here in the U.S. I am hoping to move abroad to teach.
I'm curious what people think is the best country to teach in in regards to ones ability to save money to bring back to the U.S.
Also, two other questions:
1. I am a cancer survivor (currently 1 year cancer free). How will that affect my chances of getting a job?
2. Does anyone have any experience getting ESL positions in New Zealand? It's my understanding that there are a number of schools catering to the ESL crowd there.
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Glenski
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:47 am Post subject: |
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No need to mention the cancer. Congratulations on being a survivor.
How much debt do you have to pay off monthly? |
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artemisia
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Yes, congratulations on surviving cancer. I'd agree with Glenski that there's no need to mention it although I'm not sure how you'd be affected by possibly needing to provide a medical clearance certificate. I assume it'd be clear as of now and that that would be the important thing.
I think the Middle East in general is the area of the world considered the best in terms of the financial reward for working as an English language teacher. You have a Masters and experience so that's good. I don't think you'd have any visa issues once you were offered a position there but I don't think the same would be true of NZ.
Work is pretty thin on the ground in NZ and getting a work visa would be an issue (you have to meet a certain number of points) unless you have either an Australian or NZ spouse or passport. You could try posting under Oceania for more information but that forum's pretty quiet. You could try looking under the NZ immigration website for current entry work requirements.
PM me if you want to further discuss working in NZ.
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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| For money, you're looking at the MIddle East and some coutries in Asia, like Korea and Taiwan. |
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think_balance
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for the responses.
I'll have to hit up the Middle East boards to see which country is most accommodating of Westerners. |
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think_balance
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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No need to mention the cancer. Congratulations on being a survivor.
How much debt do you have to pay off monthly? |
Well, I am not *yet* a survivor... they found a new tumor in Sep but aren't sure if it's cancerous or not. They're observing it and will make a decision in a few months. :/
As for debt? Right now? A bit. But, my plan is to have it paid off in two years while getting my Adult Ed experience. Here's hoping there's no further financial difficulties.
My goal while living abroad is to save at least $500 US a month. |
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Glenski
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| think_balance wrote: |
| Well, I am not *yet* a survivor... they found a new tumor in Sep but aren't sure if it's cancerous or not. They're observing it and will make a decision in a few months. :/ |
Best of luck.
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As for debt? Right now? A bit. But, my plan is to have it paid off in two years while getting my Adult Ed experience. Here's hoping there's no further financial difficulties.
My goal while living abroad is to save at least $500 US a month. |
You could do that in Japan. Just realize how competitive the market is there nowadays. Getting in is not as easy as it used to be. |
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think_balance
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Glenski wrote: |
| think_balance wrote: |
| Well, I am not *yet* a survivor... they found a new tumor in Sep but aren't sure if it's cancerous or not. They're observing it and will make a decision in a few months. :/ |
Best of luck.
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As for debt? Right now? A bit. But, my plan is to have it paid off in two years while getting my Adult Ed experience. Here's hoping there's no further financial difficulties.
My goal while living abroad is to save at least $500 US a month. |
You could do that in Japan. Just realize how competitive the market is there nowadays. Getting in is not as easy as it used to be. |
Well, hopefully in two years things will have improved. Hopefully my M.A. TESOL and two years experience will get me something a bit better than a starting package. And Japan is first on my life of countries to teach in.
Thank you again. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Just make sure you come over with enough to live on until you get paid. HOpe it works out for you. |
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think_balance
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| Just make sure you come over with enough to live on until you get paid. HOpe it works out for you. |
Thanks. I am not much for discussing my personal finances, but I have a good job here in the states and do my MA in the evening. So I should have a good nest egg saved up by the time I start this adventure.  |
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Glenski
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Japanese employers don't usually count experience outside of Japan as notable. There are exceptions, I'm sure.
That's not to say experience will hurt you. And, with today's market as tight as it is, who's to say that an employer will actually look to such experience to give you an edge over the other guy?
I'd still say to expect entry level work: eikaiwa or ALT. |
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denise
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Oman is fairly laid-back and accommodating towards westerners. And it'd be hard NOT to save $500 here. You could easily save twice that amount per month.
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| You might also need to factor in the cost of medical insurance if your potential employer doesn't cover it. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| think_balance wrote: |
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| Just make sure you come over with enough to live on until you get paid. HOpe it works out for you. |
Thanks. I am not much for discussing my personal finances, but I have a good job here in the states and do my MA in the evening. So I should have a good nest egg saved up by the time I start this adventure. |
I didn't ask for your personal finances.  I just said that you should make sure you have enough to tide you over. You'd be surprised how many people forget about that. |
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Prof.Gringo
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| think_balance wrote: |
| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| Just make sure you come over with enough to live on until you get paid. HOpe it works out for you. |
Thanks. I am not much for discussing my personal finances, but I have a good job here in the states and do my MA in the evening. So I should have a good nest egg saved up by the time I start this adventure. |
I didn't ask for your personal finances. I just said that you should make sure you have enough to tide you over. You'd be surprised how many people forget about that. |
Always make sure you have enough money in reserve. That can not be said strongly enough to newbies. |
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