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franky
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 Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:19 am Post subject: what is an average salary at present? |
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| Can anyone tell me what is an average salary for an esl teacher per hour? |
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Taylor
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:54 am Post subject: |
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$600 NT per hour (50 minutes, usually)....That's $20 USD.
Any other comments or discussion? (I've been out of Taiwan for a while.) |
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creztor
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| I've actually seen more jobs with starting rate of 500 - 550NT. I'd say the average is 550NT now, but of course you could still get a job doing 600NT. |
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Solar Strength
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:23 am Post subject: |
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NT $400 - NT $600 has been my experience.
I've earned more per hour, but those were the exceptional occasions.
One doesn't come to teach TEFL in Taiwan for the money. If you're after money to re-pay student loans or work up enough for a down payment on a house back in Canada, you need to head off to Japan or Korea.
Salaries are notoriously low, even with the low cost of living here. Savings are much higher in Korea or Japan. |
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adogadie
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| Ask for 600 NT/hr, and explain that your experience warrants that as a minimum. Usually, I wait for them to make an offer. So far, most bushibans offer 600 NT an hour, but if they really insist that you make an offer then say 700 NT an hour, and negotiate downward a bit if they are adamant about it being too much. Another factor could be that I am teaching in DouLiou City area where there aren't many teachers anyway, so I am able to ask for 600 and 700 NT an hour. I should probably ask for more, but I don't want to push myself out the door sort to speak. But if I had to accept 550 NT an hour in order to survive, then I'd probably take it. |
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Rooster_2006
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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| creztor wrote: |
| I've actually seen more jobs with starting rate of 500 - 550NT. I'd say the average is 550NT now, but of course you could still get a job doing 600NT. |
Seconded.
My first job: 560 an hour
My second job: 500 an hour
My current (third) job: 600 an hour
That seems to average out to the number you're saying -- 550 NTD per hour. |
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creztor
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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We'll be working for free soon  |
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Rooster_2006
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| creztor wrote: |
| We'll be working for free soon |
That's so optimistic, Creztor.
I think there is a possibility that once the Mandarin boom takes off, eager college students will pay fees to come here and volunteer teach English, the same way they already do with Cambodia and Sub-Saharan Africa.
They won't just be working for free -- they'll be paying to work! |
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Dr_Zoidberg
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:00 am Post subject: |
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It's all about supply and demand. If there are more people looking for work in a given area, expect the wages to be lower.
That's how I got run out of Chia Yi a few years back. There were too many Safffies offering to work for less. One laoban offered me a job for 600NT / hour and un-offered it the next day when a South African said he would do it for 300.
On the other hand, if you go where most people won't, you'll find they offer more money simply to attract someone. Admittedly, you won't have much of a life out there, but you'll be making a good wage. |
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creztor
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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| 300 an hour? OMFG... |
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Rooster_2006
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| creztor wrote: |
| 300 an hour? OMFG... |
Yeah, I tend to agree...
When you factor in lesson prep time, that's really 200 NTD an hour. In other words, twice what high school students at 7-Eleven make... And they don't have to worry about visas, getting fired and and having to leave the country... Heck, they don't even have to worry about renting an apartment or paying for their own food!
300 NTD per teaching hour, no thanks...
On the other hand, from what I have read, South Africa has just been taking nosedive after nosedive and I'd probably sooner work in Taiwan for 300 NTD an hour than live there... |
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Pretentious Parrot
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Dr_Zoidberg wrote: |
| On the other hand, if you go where most people won't, you'll find they offer more money simply to attract someone. Admittedly, you won't have much of a life out there, but you'll be making a good wage. |
Where can I find one of these teaching jobs that is located on some remote mountain? |
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Dr_Zoidberg
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| Pretentious Parrot wrote: |
| Dr_Zoidberg wrote: |
| On the other hand, if you go where most people won't, you'll find they offer more money simply to attract someone. Admittedly, you won't have much of a life out there, but you'll be making a good wage. |
Where can I find one of these teaching jobs that is located on some remote mountain? |
Who said anything about remote mountains? I'm talking crappy little towns with no socializing amenities that exist about an hour outside the cities.
Yuanlin is a perfect example of one such place. Absolute sh*t hole with absolutely nothing to do. Its only redeeming feature is the opportunity for escape offered by the train station. |
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Dr_Zoidberg
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| Rooster_2006 wrote: |
| South Africa has just been taking nosedive after nosedive and I'd probably sooner work in Taiwan for 300 NTD an hour than live there... |
BINGO! |
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markholmes
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:56 am Post subject: |
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| what is an average salary at present? |
Currently salary seems to be the same as past salary. I was earning 570 at Kojen in 2001. Salaries have not gone up in ten years, in fact, i get the impression they may have gone down a couple of percent. |
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