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dmd887



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:02 am    Post subject: Clarifying about Apostille Reply with quote

To begin, I am a U.S. citizen...my questions are:

1.) Does your ORIGINAL college diploma have to be apostilled in order to obtain the Work Visa in Mexico? OR Do you get a notarized and apostilled copy of the diploma and this will suffice?

2.) Do you have to get your ORIGINAL TEFL/TESOL certificate apostilled? Or will it suffice if you just get a notarize and apostilled copy of the certificate? (I am getting my TEFL online, so what can I expect in regards to this)

I am trying to get all my ducks in a row before I make the move to Mexico....boy there is a lot of information to process, haha

But I am amazingly grateful these forums exist, because without them I would be totally LOST! Thanks to everyone and I am looking forward to being part of the community here for a long time Smile


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Professor



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:12 am    Post subject: Re: Clarifying about Apostille Reply with quote

dmd887 wrote:
To begin, I am a U.S. citizen...my questions are:

1.) Does your ORIGINAL college diploma have to be apostilled in order to obtain the Work Visa in Mexico? OR Do you get a notarized and apostilled copy of the diploma and this will suffice?

2.) Do you have to get your ORIGINAL TEFL/TESOL certificate apostilled? Or will it suffice if you just get a notarize and apostilled copy of the certificate? (I am getting my TEFL online, so what can I expect in regards to this)



1.) I would say yes. Get the ORIGINAL apostilled. Same with your online certificate. The place that you're getting your certificate from should have that service. I got my online certificate apostilled. Always get ORIGINALS apostilled. Notorized as well.

2.) Original
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dmd887



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:18 am    Post subject: Re: Clarifying about Apostille Reply with quote

1.) Fortunately I live very close to the University where I will be getting my degree from....so I should have no problem having them notarize the Original Diploma? I read of one girl on the internet who went to a college in New Hampshire and the college refused to notarize her Original Diploma.

2.) So the website your getting the Online TEFL certificate from is offering to apostille it for you?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The lady in academic affairs at my university did not want to notarize my diplomas either before I moved to Mexico--something about a diploma being an official document that doesn't require notarization. I convinced her to, though, because I didn't want to have any problems down the line.

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dmd887



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody else have any experiences regarding this? Anyone else had any problems having their Original diploma notarized?

And again I ask....the original online TEFL certificate apostilled yes?



Better to ask too many questions in preparation than none at all....that's my motto! hahaha
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Professor



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:26 am    Post subject: Re: Clarifying about Apostille Reply with quote

dmd887 wrote:
1.) Fortunately I live very close to the University where I will be getting my degree from....so I should have no problem having them notarize the Original Diploma?

2.) So the website your getting the Online TEFL certificate from is offering to apostille it for you?


1.) If the university doesn't want to fo it try a bank. If my memory serves me correctly, Wells Fargo notorized mine. I had a checking account with them. You'll need to get it notorized before apostilled.

2.) The website I got my certificate from (www.teflonline.com) would notorize and apostille the certificate but they charge a little fee.
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dmd887



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I called up my University, they said they don't notarize diplomas because it is a conflict of interest....hmmmm....

Anyway I guess I could just go to a bank or a county clerk or some other place where there is a notary to have it done...anybody else done this?

As for the TEFL, I was planning to do mine with onlinetefl.com and they said they don't notarize, but perhaps I'll check out the website you mentioned and inquire with them.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I called the local bank and they said they'd notarize the diploma no problem....so that's good....now I know I won't have a problem when I get my diploma en mis manos. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Clarifying about Apostille Reply with quote

Professor wrote:
dmd887 wrote:
1.) Fortunately I live very close to the University where I will be getting my degree from....so I should have no problem having them notarize the Original Diploma?

2.) So the website your getting the Online TEFL certificate from is offering to apostille it for you?


1.) If the university doesn't want to fo it try a bank. If my memory serves me correctly, Wells Fargo notorized mine. I had a checking account with them. You'll need to get it notorized before apostilled.

2.) The website I got my certificate from (www.teflonline.com) would notorize and apostille the certificate but they charge a little fee.



Great advice Professor...I got in touch with the people from teflonline.com and they do indeed apostille the certificate for an extra charge....very good to know
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not following. Has something changed in the official Apostille process?
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dmd887



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was just some confusion (on my part) regarding HOW to get my TEFL certificate and diploma apostilled AND if it was to be done on the originals of both of those documents or copies of them

The confusion has been cleared up for me Smile

As far as I know, nothing in the Apostille process has changed, no
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm lost too...I thought the apostille was obtained from a government agency, such as a state education bureau.
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right. It gets done by a designated government office. I think this train somehow got run off the tracks on a couple of points. I am guessing there is confusion in this discussion between originals and copies. In Canada, for example, photocopies will be authenticated by DFAIT, just like an original. However, they FIRST must be certified true copies, signed and sealed by a Canadian notary. That step doesn't apply to originals.

(Reminder: We also have a Sticky at the top of the forum on this topic)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:
I'm lost too...I thought the apostille was obtained from a government agency, such as a state education bureau.


It is but one has to get the original degree NOTORIZED FIRST THEN it gets apostilled. I got my degree notorized on the back and THEN sent it to Austin (got my degree in Texas) to get it apostilled.
If one sends a degree to the state to get apostilled and it hasn't been notorized, they will just send it back to you.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Professor is correct...in the United States the government agency can't apostille the degree unless it is FIRST notarized by a notary
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