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Professor
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| Samantha wrote: |
Right. It gets done by a designated government office. I think this train somehow got run off the tracks on a couple of points.
(Reminder: We also have a Sticky at the top of the forum on this topic) |
Not sure why there is confusion about this from those who have been posting here for so long.
Here it is:
The ORIGINAL degree (which you can get MANY from the university) must be NOTORIZED FIRST, THEN APOSTILLED. If one sends the original degree to the state to be apostilled and it's not notorized, then the state will send it back.
The notorization shows the state that the degree is real. I took a sealed envelope to the bank and let them open it. This way the bank knew the degree I had was genuine.
After the ORIGINAL degree has been notorized, you can THEN send it to the state where it will be APOSTILLED.
The certificate in teaching English that I got had the option to have it notorized and THEN apostilled. Same format. NOTORIZE THEN APOSTILLE |
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Samantha
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| Can you provide an official website link to that information, please? |
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dmd887
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:48 am Post subject: |
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This is how an apostille works people....an apostille is essentially a verification of the notarization done on your diploma or certificate.
This is common knowledge...the original post was regarding copies and originals....as far as getting an apostille goes it has always been=
#1. Get document notarized
#2. Bring this notarized document to government official to get it apostilled |
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Samantha
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:51 am Post subject: |
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Have you had a chance to read through the sticky at the top of this forum yet? We all helped develop the Apostille information into one spot. Check it out.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=54800 |
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Professor
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:54 am Post subject: |
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| Samantha wrote: |
| Can you provide an official website link to that information, please? |
Sorry Samantha but I don't have an official website for that information. I got it the old fashined way...experience. I just did this walk two years ago in Texas. I did all of the research and now I have my notorized and apostilled degree.
ANYONE who has come here from the States and has gotten their degree apostilled will tell you the same thing. The original degree must be notorized first and then sent to the state to be apostilled.
I'm not trying to lead anyone astray and I PROMISE this was the way I did it and it has to be done this way. I also worked in universities in the states for almost thirteen years so I'm 100% sure this is what needs to be done.
If however there is anyone in the States coming to Mexico soon and you want to get your degree apostilled, send it to the state first without being notorized and see what happens. They will send it right back to you and it won't be apostilled. Nothing sticky or confusing about this. Just remember this rule:
NOTORIZE AND THEN APOSTILLE. Notorize by a bank and then send it to the state to be apostilled. |
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Professor
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:14 am Post subject: |
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Here is what's printed on the back of my degree.
State of Texas My signature
COUNTY OF: COLLIN
On this 14th day of March , 2008, personally appeared my name, as identified by his Texas Driver License, number: xxxxxxxx and upon his oath stated that he is the custodianof the original degree issued to my name, by Southern Methodist Universityand the attached was duly compared to the originaland is a true abd correct reproduction of said original.
Subscribed and sworn to before me on this dat noted herein.
Below that the notorizer put her stamp and signature. The above is on not a copied degree, but the actual degree. I ordered TWO ORIGINAL DEGREES from my university. I took BOTH to the bank with me along with an unopened envelope from the university that had the transcripts. After this I sent it to the State by mail. They send it back with a page stapled to the degree.
The paper stapled was the apostille. Hope this helps. |
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Samantha
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:30 am Post subject: |
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Here is what I was looking for. I checked with a recent teacher from the USA. She confirmed hers was all taken care of on her UNI's campus, and no extra steps involved. She graduated years ago, and all she had to do was tell them she was now coming to Mexico to teach. She sent in her diploma and they took care of what they had to do (attesting and swearing), right away. She said teachers traveling abroad should first check with their campus registrars office, as there was no charge for any of this procedure. They even sent her degree on to the State office for her.
She kindly sent me the official link with the pertinent quote:
http://travel.state.gov/law/judicial/judicial_5188.html
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| Obtain from the registrar of the University an official true copy of the credentials. The registrar should then execute an affidavit attesting to the validity of the document before a notary public in the registrar's office or elsewhere at the university. Frequently the business offices of colleges and universities have notaries public. |
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notamiss
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:44 am Post subject: |
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I know we don�t usually fuss about things like this here, but there�s a typo repeated over and over again in this thread, so for the record:
Notarize, not �notorize.� Same pattern as �notary.� |
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Professor
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:15 am Post subject: |
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| notamiss wrote: |
there�s a typo repeated over and over again in this thread, so for the record:
Notarize, not �notorize.� Same pattern as �notary.� |
Thanks for that notamiss. |
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Professor
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| Samantha wrote: |
Here is what I was looking for. I checked with a recent teacher from the USA. She confirmed hers was all taken care of on her UNI's campus, and no extra steps involved. She graduated years ago, and all she had to do was tell them she was now coming to Mexico to teach. She sent in her diploma and they took care of what they had to do (attesting and swearing), right away. She said teachers traveling abroad should first check with their campus registrars office, as there was no charge for any of this procedure. They even sent her degree on to the State office for her.
She kindly sent me the official link with the pertinent quote:
http://travel.state.gov/law/judicial/judicial_5188.html
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| Obtain from the registrar of the University an official true copy of the credentials. The registrar should then execute an affidavit attesting to the validity of the document before a notary public in the registrar's office or elsewhere at the university. Frequently the business offices of colleges and universities have notaries public. |
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Not all universities will do this for a student. Mine would not. Doesn't matter. The one constant is... Notarize THEN apostille. |
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dmd887
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:39 am Post subject: |
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| Professor wrote: |
| Samantha wrote: |
Here is what I was looking for. I checked with a recent teacher from the USA. She confirmed hers was all taken care of on her UNI's campus, and no extra steps involved. She graduated years ago, and all she had to do was tell them she was now coming to Mexico to teach. She sent in her diploma and they took care of what they had to do (attesting and swearing), right away. She said teachers traveling abroad should first check with their campus registrars office, as there was no charge for any of this procedure. They even sent her degree on to the State office for her.
She kindly sent me the official link with the pertinent quote:
http://travel.state.gov/law/judicial/judicial_5188.html
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| Obtain from the registrar of the University an official true copy of the credentials. The registrar should then execute an affidavit attesting to the validity of the document before a notary public in the registrar's office or elsewhere at the university. Frequently the business offices of colleges and universities have notaries public. |
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Not all universities will do this for a student. Mine would not. Doesn't matter. The one constant is... Notarize THEN apostille. |
You mean notorize hahaha JK |
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Professor
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:29 am Post subject: |
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| dmd887 wrote: |
You mean notorize hahaha JK |
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Prof.Gringo
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| dmd887 wrote: |
| Professor is correct...in the United States the government agency can't apostille the degree unless it is FIRST notarized by a notary |
Same for your birth cert, for example. In fact, get your birth cert translated, notarized and apostilled before you head down south.
To be safe, I have a copy of my original birth cert apostilled.
The translation was done and notarized by the same person. The notarization of the translation had to be certified at the county level and then I was able to get that apostilled by the Sec. of State (at the state, NOT federal level).
I did everything in person in one day which included a lot of leg work and travel time. |
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MotherF
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
I'm from the US.
I had a notarized PHOTOCOPY of my degree apostilled.
For many years, I hired teachers to work where I work.
I had them all get notarized PHOTOCOPIES of their degrees apostilled.
Just saying... |
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dmd887
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Prof.Gringo wrote: |
| dmd887 wrote: |
| Professor is correct...in the United States the government agency can't apostille the degree unless it is FIRST notarized by a notary |
Same for your birth cert, for example. In fact, get your birth cert translated, notarized and apostilled before you head down south.
To be safe, I have a copy of my original birth cert apostilled.
The translation was done and notarized by the same person. The notarization of the translation had to be certified at the county level and then I was able to get that apostilled by the Sec. of State (at the state, NOT federal level).
I did everything in person in one day which included a lot of leg work and travel time. |
From everything I've heard it isn't necessary to get your birth certificate apostilled correct? I'm assuming a birth certificate would be of no use since a Passport readily proves your citizenship. Although of course I know there are isolated instances where employers wanted to see a birth certificate. If I was in that position and employer wanted my birth certificate I'd say "Why? Here's my passport"..then move on to the next school
In a related question, once you get to Mexico your Diploma and TEFL/TESOL certificate has to be translated, am I right? Where do you get this done? Does Immigration tell you where to go? And most importantly how much does it cost? lol |
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