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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can someone with expertise in interpreting statistics please explain how these two ways of expressing Mexican educational attainment be reconciled?


No statistician here but the INEGI (statistics Mexico) numbers say your average Mexican has some high school, a high school diploma, or better.

Here's a Wiki link for a comparison to the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_attainment_in_the_United_States
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TeresaLopez



Joined: 18 Apr 2010
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prof.Gringo wrote:

Mexicans have on average a 7th grade education.


Right along with France, Chile. Spain and Italy to name a few. I don�t think that is as valuable a statistic as the number of students NOW in school.
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Isla Guapa



Joined: 19 Apr 2010
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Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana

PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeresaLopez wrote:
Prof.Gringo wrote:

Mexicans have on average a 7th grade education.


Right along with France, Chile. Spain and Italy to name a few. I don�t think that is as valuable a statistic as the number of students NOW in school.


As MotherF has pointed out earlier in this thread,

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We can assume that the only primary completed includes mostly people of the tercera edad who grew up in a very different Mexico.
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PlayadelSoul



Joined: 29 Jun 2005
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Location: Playa del Carmen

PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some really outdated opionions on this thread.

Pros:
1. An academic program with professional material.
2. Students from all economic classes, mingled together.
3. Steady pay, paid vacations, and all the benefits the law calls for.
4. Constant training and professional development.
5. Clean, air-conditioned classrooms with state of the art computers and TVs.

There are many more. As far as pay goes, my teachers make from 90 to 120 pesos per hour. 30% of the school's income goes to academic salaries. It is the highest, single line item, by far.
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Isla Guapa



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Playa del Soul, it sounds like you pay your teachers a very decent wage. Was your pay scale determined in part by the cost of living in Playa del Carmen?
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gregd75



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Location: Tlaquepaque, Jalisco

PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought this thread was about language school PROs.

Seems to me that it's turned out to be yet another Mexico bashing.

Lets remember that, yes, maybe the average Mexican has 7th grade education, but;

1. This has significantly improved in the last 5 to 10 years (and lets not forget that we're living in a developing world country)

2. I'm sure if we went into inner city Los Angeles, New York, London or Birmingham then things would be just as bad.

It's not all doom and gloom
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PlayadelSoul



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isla Guapa, it is mostly based on the income of the school. A certain percentage is set aside for salaries. If the school does well, the teachers do well. If not, they still get paid the same but with fewer classes.

The cost of living is a little higher in Playa but we have "cuotas" that are accessible to most. Many of our students work in hotels and are looking for advancement (stewards who want to change to waiters, waiters that want to be bellboys and bellboys that want to be receptionists). English is gold in this part of the world. People know that and are willing to invest in their futures. We feel a responsibility for those investments and hire people who recognize that responsibility. We don't do "backpackers," as was alluded to above. Most of my foreign teachers have been with us for over 3 years.
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Isla Guapa



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no desire to live at the beach, as it were, but if I did, I might consider applying for a teaching position at PlayadelSoul's school.
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PlayadelSoul



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isla Guapa wrote:
I have no desire to live at the beach, as it were, but if I did, I might consider applying for a teaching position at PlayadelSoul's school.


I work at my school and rarely see the beach. Wink

BTW, you will find most Harmon Halls are run the same way. Some pay more, some pay less. Depends on the market.

Like I said before, many opinons on this subject were formed years ago and are held onto like a comfortable blanket. It gets kind of old seeing them repeated and I just want to add some firsthand experience to the debate. There are many pros, in my opinion.
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