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veiledsentiments
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The procedure is rather different in the US, and copies of your degrees must be notarized, the notary must be confirmed by your state, then it passes through the State Department to confirm that your state is a state, and then it goes to the Omani Embassy in DC. It is all just a way for our governments to suck a bit of money from your pocket.
You can do it in a couple days if you are in or near DC. If not, the easiest way is to hire a local service that does this for a fee. PM me if you get to this point and I will try to search up a company in Virginia that has done it for a few teachers going to Oman and the UAE.
Oman also does the AIDS test and the chest x-ray. In the 80s they required us to bring a set of fingerprints from the US to hand in at the same time as Oman did the prints. But in 2000 they just did them in Oman. Whoever hires you would inform of the latest version of this requirement.
The criminal background topic is on the other thread.
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ETG
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| Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:20 pm Post subject: considering oman |
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A chest X-ray is not done in Oman.
The blood test may be for HIV status, but that is not disclosed. so the blood which is collected at the "health clinic" may be for other tests.
Fingerprints are done, no handprints.
Females may have pregnancy tests done, although this is usually done only for domestic workers. |
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veiledsentiments
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When did they stop the x-ray? It was still done in 2000. Just curious...
I was told the blood test was for AIDS. Workers from some countries have their blood tested for other things - like malaria.
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ETG
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| Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:27 am Post subject: considering Oman |
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Chest X-rays may be done for some people, but no one I know has had one in the last 7 years or so, so not sure what the status of it is just know that it isn't done for all undergoing the health check.
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veiledsentiments
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I always thought it was unnecessary for Westerners since TB is so rare in our countries... but many of us have been in countries where we may have been exposed.
Wouldn't it be nice if there was some government website that reported all the requirements for expat workers? I am actually surprised that Oman doesn't have such as it is very organized in so many ways.
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waterman
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
The procedure is rather different in the US, and copies of your degrees must be notarized, the notary must be confirmed by your state, then it passes through the State Department to confirm that your state is a state, and then it goes to the Omani Embassy in DC. It is all just a way for our governments to suck a bit of money from your pocket.
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"the notary must be confirmed by your state" VS, are you talking about the apostille process? I've had to do this before for documents in Korea. I get copies of my diplomas notarized by a local notary public, and then apostilled by the state's Secretary of State.
 But what about this part? "it passes through the State Department to confirm that your state is a state" Do they then want the apostille from the individual state to be apostilled again by the US Secretary of State? Is that even possible? In reality, that step would be totally unnecessary, as apostilles issued by any of the 50 states are recognized under the Hague Convention....but of course, if that's what they want, that's what I'll have to do.
And then on to the Omani Embassy.... 
I'm planning to stay here in Korea for another year, so at least I'm not in a rush to get all this done. But, I'm going back to the US for Christmas, so it would be nice to get some of this done while I'm there, so I don't have to rely on family to do all the legwork later.
Will I also need sealed transcripts for Oman? |
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Duffy
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| Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:41 am Post subject: |
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ETG,
Having recently had it done, I can confirm that the chest x ray is still required, (at least by the MOM).  |
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ETG
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| Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:14 pm Post subject: considering Oman |
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Well, that's interesting, again as I said I don't know anyone who has had to have a chest xray , certainly I have never had to have one for the MoM.
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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It sounds like a recruiter variance now. You would think that the requirements for medical tests in this area would be set by the Ministry in charge of the labor cards.
Waterman
The term "apostille" has never been used in relation to this process in the Gulf. They refer to it as "certification." I have done it twice for Oman, but it was about ten years ago now. As I said, step one was the notarized signature, then it went to the state where the notary is licensed to affirm that fact, then it went to the US state department (where it will now come back with Hillary's autograph) who swore to... whatever... who knows... it took less than 24 hours... and then to the Omani embassy. It can be done in two days if you are in DC, and, of course, you pass them cash each step of the way.
You end up with a thick packet of your papers festooned with ribbons and wax... all meaning nothing... because nothing along the way actually proves that you ever really went to any university. The requirement for sealed transcripts... a process that actually proves your credentials was never required for me in Oman. But if your employer asks for it, kudos to them...
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runninggirl
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| Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:49 am Post subject: Chest x RAys were required |
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| I was required to have one and a friend for the same agency was required. The sad thing was while they reviewed mine a fellow from India was in the same room and they found cancer spots in his chest! |
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veiledsentiments
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| Sad story, but also an example of why they require these tests. Many of the workers sent from the sub-continent are not healthy enough to do the jobs that they are being hired for... |
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waterman
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| Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Waterman
The term "apostille" has never been used in relation to this process in the Gulf. They refer to it as "certification." I have done it twice for Oman, but it was about ten years ago now. As I said, step one was the notarized signature, then it went to the state where the notary is licensed to affirm that fact, then it went to the US state department (where it will now come back with Hillary's autograph) who swore to... whatever... who knows... it took less than 24 hours... and then to the Omani embassy. It can be done in two days if you are in DC, and, of course, you pass them cash each step of the way.
You end up with a thick packet of your papers festooned with ribbons and wax... all meaning nothing... because nothing along the way actually proves that you ever really went to any university. The requirement for sealed transcripts... a process that actually proves your credentials was never required for me in Oman. But if your employer asks for it, kudos to them...
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Okay....so here I am back in the US for winter break, and trying to get some of my paperwork prepared:
A couple of months ago, a notary at my dad's bank had been happy to notarize printouts of my diplomas which I had scanned and emailed. When I called the Indiana Secretary of State to ask a question and mentioned this, they said it was not acceptable because the notary hadn't actually seen the original documents.
Sooooo......I brought my original diplomas back home with me (from Korea, where I'm currently working), took them to the bank, the notary made photocopies, wrote a statement on them that they were true and exact copies of the original document, and signed and stamped them. Again, the Indiana Secretary of State office said this was not acceptable, because the notary cannot notarize a diploma unless they actually witnessed the university officials signing it.
They suggested that I write an affidavit and swear that the photocopies are true and exact copies of my original diplomas from the university, sign the affidavit in front of the notary, and then the notary can notarize the affidavit.....but shouldn't actually write or stamp anything at all on the copy of the diploma. The affidavit will simply be stapled to the front of the photocopied diploma.
The notary is simply verifying that it was me (proven by ID) that signed the statement in which I swore that these were photocopies of my original diplomas.
What I'm wondering is.....will something like that even be acceptable to the Omani Embassy, if nothing is actually stamped on the copy of the diploma?? |
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veiledsentiments
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Yes... sorry if you misunderstood step one and had her notarize a document. She can't notarize a document. Step one as explained by the State Dept to me was that you made copies and attached that statement. You sign the STATEMENT in front of the notary and s/he notarizes your SIGNATURE. (that is all that they can do) Then the state confirms that s/he is a notary... then the State Department confirms... whatever it is they are confirming... apparently only that your college/university was accredited in the US. Then the packet of papers goes to the Omani Embassy.
Of course Oman will accept it... this is the process... and what they have always asked for. A notary can not "notarize a diploma." Notaries ONLY notarize a signature... affirming that said person signed in front of them. (in this case the person who signs the fancy paper at your college... and is done most likely by a machine anyway. )
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waterman
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Yes... sorry if you misunderstood step one and had her notarize a document. She can't notarize a document. Step one as explained by the State Dept to me was that you made copies and attached that statement. You sign the STATEMENT in front of the notary and s/he notarizes your SIGNATURE. (that is all that they can do) Then the state confirms that s/he is a notary... then the State Department confirms... whatever it is they are confirming... apparently only that your college/university was accredited in the US. Then the packet of papers goes to the Omani Embassy.
Of course Oman will accept it... this is the process... and what they have always asked for. A notary can not "notarize a diploma." Notaries ONLY notarize a signature... affirming that said person signed in front of them. (in this case the person who signs the fancy paper at your college... and is done most likely by a machine anyway. )
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Thanks for all your help with this, VS. Apparently, every country has their own requirements, and it can be really confusing trying to figure out exactly what it is that I need to do!
A few more questions:
1. I'm going back to the notary tomorrow, to have them notarize a statement from me that the copies I'm presenting are true and exact copies of my original diplomas from such-and-such university. Is there any standard form they want for this statement, or should I just make up something that sounds official?
2. Does Oman keep a copy of this on file? Or does the entire process need to be repeated every year? Or every time you start a new job? Should I get several copies of my diplomas attested?
3. I plan to apply for jobs in other countries also, such as the UAE. Do other Middle East countries require the same type of diploma attestation? |
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elmoro
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:43 am Post subject: |
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they keep a copy (of the copy) on file. i had my documents attested in the uae and i used them for a job in oman. HOWEVER, the uae can be quite elitist and MAY not accept documents attested in other countries. if that is the case, you would have to get the uae to stamp your documents.
can't tell you anything about qatar, saudi, or kuwait. my friend used his uae attested documents in egypt without any problems.
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