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Visa Requirements for Canadians in Qatar

 
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capthappy20002000



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:13 am    Post subject: Visa Requirements for Canadians in Qatar Reply with quote

Hi,

Can anyone tell me the exact details of the work visa process for Canadians in Qatar? Or, refer me to a reputable website. I have been looking on the Internet but have not been successful.

Thanks,
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millie18



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From outside Qatar you have to get and send a chest xray and HIV test results and a police clearance certificate and attested copies of your education (diploma) documents.

From inside Qatar you have to pass a second chest xray and HIV test provide legible finger prints AND get immigration to issue a residency/work permit (not always a given even if you pass all the rest). Everything can be fine and there is always a chance (and it might be remote but it is there) you won't get an RP and you will have to leave.

Most contracts/letters of intent include a clause stating that employment is contingent on the State issuing a RP (and your employer may have some pull but maybe not enough to get one issued). The state has the final say and they do not have to give any reason for rejecting you.

You, of course, if rejected, are now without a job and 1000s of miles away from your home country having packed up or sold most of your possessions in order to come here.

Working in the GCC is not for the faint of heart or those who fail to plan for contingencies.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And just how often does this happen? We haven't had anyone posting here complaining of it?

VS
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millie18



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I said, it's remote, but there have been 2 people at CNA who had difficulty - 1 because of a spot on their chest xray (CNA sent them 4x for an xray which seems excessive exposure to radiation to me) - I believe they were eventually cleared when their Canadian physician certified the spot was a result of either cracked or broken ribs in the past. BUt it took several months and a lot of stress and aggravation for the new employee.

At another employer it was because the person's fingerprints could not be taken because of either medication/illness which made it impossible to get a full set of clear prints. That person had to leave the country and seek medical treatment to try and raise the prints. Haven't heard on the results.

The possibility IS very remote (especially for white westerners) - but it is there and if you don't have a contingency plan you could find yourself in a pickle
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I thought, it is unlikely to the point of a less than 1% chance... unless, of course, you actually have TB or HIV... or a felony that you tried to hide... or fingers that won't make fingerprints. Laughing

In any or all of those cases, it probably shouldn't come as a surprise to you.

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millie18



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But how many of us in North America, Europe have had a chest xray or fingerprints being a criteria for being employed? Until I came to the GCC (and I have worked in countries outside North America before) no one ever required these two hoops - people coming from their comfort zone of the West should be aware that there may be a chance of rejection (much like dating). It can be devastating financially and psychologically to be booted before you've begun. Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear mille18,

True about the chest X-ray, but every teaching job at the below college level that I've even had in the States has required a background check (i.e. fingerprints.) And many of them also require a drug test.

Apparently, when you're teaching "adults" in the States, they don't care if you're a serial killer and/or a drug addict Very Happy.

Regards,
John
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

millie18 wrote:
It can be devastating financially and psychologically to be booted before you've begun. Sad

Are we not adults with at least a limited ability to do some basic research? Google? Dave's or other boards? Should we not have known long before arrival that AIDS or a felony would exclude us. Rolling Eyes Seriously, in my more than 15 years in teaching over there and another ten here on the board since then, I haven't encountered any Western teachers who failed the medical or the security check AFTER arriving. And I have only read here about a handful of people who failed the security check before they arrived.

No different than people who have moved across the US for a new job that ended before it began. Stuff happens... And it is much more likely to happen in the US than in the Gulf.

I think a more important contingency to worry about is whether you hate the job, or can't deal with the culture... either the surrounding culture or the work culture... or the traffic... or can't take the weather. Laughing

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capthappy20002000



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

millie18 wrote:
From outside Qatar you have to get and send a chest xray and HIV test results and a police clearance certificate and attested copies of your education (diploma) documents.

From inside Qatar you have to pass a second chest xray and HIV test provide legible finger prints AND get immigration to issue a residency/work permit (not always a given even if you pass all the rest). Everything can be fine and there is always a chance (and it might be remote but it is there) you won't get an RP and you will have to leave.

Most contracts/letters of intent include a clause stating that employment is contingent on the State issuing a RP (and your employer may have some pull but maybe not enough to get one issued). The state has the final say and they do not have to give any reason for rejecting you.

You, of course, if rejected, are now without a job and 1000s of miles away from your home country having packed up or sold most of your possessions in order to come here.

Working in the GCC is not for the faint of heart or those who fail to plan for contingencies.


Hi, thank you for your reply. Do I need to send my degrees to the Canadian Department of Foreign Affiairs to have them attested? I have heard this before.
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millie18



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True VS - we should be capable of doing research - and yes people are more than likely aware that AIDS or a failed police check will bar them from employment.

The two situations I am aware of were neither - would one expect to be sent for xrays 4x when their Canadian doctor had cleared them and to be sent home because of the fingerprints after they had cleared these hurdles in their home countries getting their clearance certificate from their national/state police force? Both these items are required before and after arriving in Qatar.

capthappy - suggest you contact your employer's HR dept. When I came to Qatar 6 years ago my employer only needed to be sent a transcript directly from my universitites. It may well have changed or be different for your employer.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

millie18 wrote:
True VS - we should be capable of doing research - and yes people are more than likely aware that AIDS or a failed police check will bar them from employment.

The two situations I am aware of were neither - would one expect to be sent for xrays 4x when their Canadian doctor had cleared them and to be sent home because of the fingerprints after they had cleared these hurdles in their home countries getting their clearance certificate from their national/state police force? Both these items are required before and after arriving in Qatar.

capthappy - suggest you contact your employer's HR dept. When I came to Qatar 6 years ago my employer only needed to be sent a transcript directly from my universitites. It may well have changed or be different for your employer.


Hi, I have been discussing visa requirements with my future employer, CNAQ. I was told a medical check up with an Chest X-Ray and HIV test and a criminal record check up from my local police department. Now, I'm hearing from Dave's ESL forum postings that I need to get my degrees attested. I'm trying to get info from those over there, be prepared as possible.

Thanks again for the opinion and advice.
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millie18



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

your blood tests, chest xrays, and fingerprints will be done again in Qatar - all employers are required to do this. If you pass the Canadian requirements or get a clearance etc and fail the Qatari tests/clearances you might be able to convince the Qatari authorities if you have copies or better the originals.

If you are still rejected, you will be sent home. It has only happened once to my knowledge. But such things as well as deportations, etc., are not publicized by any GCC organization.

As for attestation, what does the HR dept require?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

millie18 wrote:
your blood tests, chest xrays, and fingerprints will be done again in Qatar - all employers are required to do this. If you pass the Canadian requirements or get a clearance etc and fail the Qatari tests/clearances you might be able to convince the Qatari authorities if you have copies or better the originals.

If you are still rejected, you will be sent home. It has only happened once to my knowledge. But such things as well as deportations, etc., are not publicized by any GCC organization.

As for attestation, what does the HR dept require?


The HR department has not mentioned anything about diploma attestations. But, I am familiar with teaching overseas and the often ill informed HR departments of employers with respect to visa requirements. This does stress me out a little bit. I want to be as prepared as possible so that my move to Qatar is as smooth and pleasent as possible.
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