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Any probs arriving from country other than home country?

 
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southern blue-fin



Joined: 14 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:37 am    Post subject: Any probs arriving from country other than home country? Reply with quote

Greetings all
I'm thinking of getting a job in China -- I'm currently teaching in Thailand. I am a native New Zealander.

I don't like long haul flights, and don't want to have to return to NZ then turn around and fly to China.

Can any tell me -- as I understand there has in the past (in Guangdong province) been a stipulation that you must arrive directly from your home country .

Can anyone update me on whether I could get away with arriving directly from Thailand and have no issues with the approval of the Z visa?

If I obtain a Z visa before I go -- can they revoke it if I didn't arrive from my home country?

Thanks for any clarification !!
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choudoufu



Joined: 25 May 2010
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Location: Mao-berry, PRC

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no problem. i'm a native 'merkan, got my z-visa in chiang
mai four months ago.

you don't get a z-visa in china. a visa allows you to enter
the country. you would arrive on a tourist visa, and maybe,
just maybe, your employer would send you to hong kong
to get a z-visa, then re-enter the country. assuming
they are registered to hire foreigners. assuming they
actually intend to hire you legally.

better to get your visa beforehand. just be sure that the
invitation letter states that you will apply for your z-visa
in thailand.

pm me if you need thailand-specific info. or check the
stickies - i added some postings as i was applying.
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Mister Al



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as you have a visa (any kind) it won't matter where you come in from.
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Teatime of Soul



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To work legally in China you should enter China on a Z visa.

That visa can be issued in pretty much any country that has a Chinese embassy.

Uniformed and under motivated FAOs spread the myth that you have to return to you home country primarily because it means they will not need to lift a finger or deviate from their routine.

All you FAO needs to do is to tell the local office that issues your pre-printed Work Permit, is to hand write the country you are in, rather than had write your home country, in the little white block in the center of the form. That's it. That's the total sum of onerous difficulties involved.

Now, on occasion, the local office may have a question about this if you look a little to tanned or insufficiently "foreign", or you have been abroad for a long time. They do want to make sure you really are from the country you claim, and if they have doubts, letting you go back to your home country is a pretty good way to verify citizenship in their view.

This is an unusual situation however and definitely not the norm.

Cheers.
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DixieCat



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
To work legally in China you should enter China on a Z visa.

That visa can be issued in pretty much any country that has a Chinese embassy.

Uniformed and under motivated FAOs spread the myth that you have to return to you home country primarily because it means they will not need to lift a finger or deviate from their routine.


Z's can be converted in-country if the circumstances call for it and the company has the ability with the local authority as provisions are made for this in the immigration regs, however, as many will tell you it is safer to have a z prior to arrival. It is not however necessarily illegal to work on a converted visa.

Some Providences do require the visa to be applied to from the native countries and have refused currently and in the past to issue the paperwork to gain the visa in other than your home. While true the FAO is lazy often times it is often not left up to them.
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southern blue-fin



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all, for your advice - much appreciated.
It sounds like there isn't a way to eliminate risk completely, however if I ensure the offer letter stipulates I will be obtaining my Z visa in Thailand, that should be adequate.

Take care.
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frenchfrydoggy



Joined: 16 Nov 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is ZERO supposed stipulation regarding what country you must arrive from. That's just crazy.
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Trifaro



Joined: 10 Nov 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"....however if I ensure the offer letter stipulates I will be obtaining my Z visa in Thailand, that should be adequate..."

That's correct. If the letter says you will apply in the country which issued your passport and you apply in Thailand, I'm pretty sure you will have a problem getting the visa.

As previously stated, it doesn't matter which country you arrive from as long as you have the visa. Similar to Doggy, as far as I know/heard, there is no law that says you must arrive from your homeland.
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