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IAT and Kaplan ? ????
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elmoro



Joined: 12 Feb 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Triffid wrote

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As a woman I would really like to know whether I am going to be made to feel like a second class citizen in the workplace too.


you do realize that you will not be a citizen anymore. as a westerner, you will enjoy a first class resident status. as far as workplace is concerned, you are either admin, spy, or teacher. this is the norm in all of the english instruction (or lack thereof) asylums. just remember, you are not a citizen and you have very few rights. those rights that you do have are subject to very shady interpretation. in other words, nothing is black and white; everything is a shade of gray. life as a teacher here is definitely an exercise in socio-economic darwinism. make no mistakes about it!

elmoro

THE HORROR, THE HORROR![/quote]
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Triffid



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

elmoro wrote:
in other words, nothing is black and white; everything is a shade of gray. life as a teacher here is definitely an exercise in socio-economic darwinism. make no mistakes about it!

I think I've done this before, but not for a good salary.

Another very general question - do expats just hang around with expats or can you mix if you make the effort.
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elmoro



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

since being here, i have adopted and promote a "separate but equal" lifestyle. i have very few friends among the natives. maybe three at most and i'm muslim. there is a really disturbing secret life here that you do not what to have any knowledge of. IGNORANCE IS BLISS!!! best thing is find a small group of like-minded expats and enjoy your time away from the asylum. as for the natives, you will have your fill in the classroom. your human side will need a break.

i know it may sound bad but i am holding back.

elmoro

THE HORROR, THE HORROR
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veiledsentiments



Joined: 20 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

elmoro wrote:
in other words, nothing is black and white; everything is a shade of gray.

Ah but it seems that this is not true of you. Everything is black black black for you. I hope all readers understand and I believe that you should make it clear that you are one person with your particular experience and opinions.

The fact is that your experience will NOT be shared by others. (unless they are also a male convert of seemingly unusual background and goals.)

Triffid wrote:
Another very general question - do expats just hang around with expats or can you mix if you make the effort.

Yes, for the most part expats hang out with like-minded expats. But there is quite a variety of expats from various countries. In the Gulf, the local people pretty much to stick to themselves... actually pretty much their own families. That is how the culture works.

VS
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Gus Barkley



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was surprised to log into Dave's tonight and find a broken record. Laughing

Oh, the horror!
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Havana



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have recently dropped the minimum salary for this position from AED 12,198 to AED 11,998 and require everyone to start on the minimum salary unless they have had experience with Kaplan before.

Disorganisation bedevils this project from top to bottom.
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cam



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fact that Kaplan/IAT have lowered the salary so soon may be an indication of the number of qualified teachers who applied for positions. Anyone who applied for a job with the orginal salary should not accept one with a lower salary. This will only encourage the company to reduce salary and perhaps even benefits more.
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GriffinParka



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't recommend this outfit at all. I applied last year and promptly received an email from the UK recruiter (not Krapland). We did a brief phone interview and they got back immediately to say they had put my name forward for an interview with Krapland in AD. All very professional so far.

After that, my fears began to surface. Krapland didn't get in touch for three weeeks or more, and then asked me to get back to them immediately with skype details, and an interview time and date that was suitable for me. I did that, suggesting a time and date three days in the future. And then ... no phone call ... nothing.

Two weeks later I received the SAME email, asking ... me to get back to them promptly with an interview time and date that was suitable for me, etc. Same old story though - no follow up from them at all.

If they ever bother to contact me again, I'll be telling them where to stuff their underpaying job.

I suggest everybody else does the same.
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GriffinParka



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another reason to avoid Krapland is this story of deceit, from the Chronicle of Higher Education:

http://chronicle.com/article/Former-Students-Accuse-Kaplan/126763/?sid=at&utm_source=at&utm_medium=en

It would certainly appear that they are THE organization to avoid in the sphere of education.

Teacher Beware!!
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Warning Bells



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Havana wrote:
They have recently dropped the minimum salary for this position from AED 12,198 to AED 11,998 and require everyone to start on the minimum salary unless they have had experience with Kaplan before.

Disorganisation bedevils this project from top to bottom.

Wow, they'll be saving/losing a whole 200 dirhams per month! Rolling Eyes
Will someone please tell me where to find any well organised TEFL institute, university, college, school, training centre or whatever in this universe?! Most of these so-called managers and administrators in the field can't even manage to get their own coffee... I just wish they'd learn how to speak English and tell the truth (at least some of the time).
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happyroofus



Joined: 08 Oct 2010
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's at the 12K-13K level for 2011-2012 now with the lower rate for all new-Kaps. Housing allowance offer is not great.
It's a very large org so don't expect the "personal touch" if you're considering. In fact, I'd have to say they're borderline rude when hiring (go figure?).
They will sometimes take months to respond to applications.
Though not following up after an unsuccessful phone/Skype interview is common enough with most institutions in the Gulf.

HR
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JohnCB



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:51 am    Post subject: IAT/KAPLAN Reply with quote

Avoid IAT and Kaplan. These schools are worse than HCT. Everything from finding your own accommodation, management and salaries are a hardship no one should have to endure. Save yourself the frustration.
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Middle East Beast



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: IAT/KAPLAN Reply with quote

JohnCB wrote:
Avoid IAT and Kaplan. These schools are worse than HCT.


Wow. That's a strong statement of condemnation. I won't argue with it except to state that I believe HCT to be a bigger threat simply because they are bigger.

MEB Cool
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Kally Wally



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MEB,

So where would you say is a decent place to work in the UAE?

or maybe the least bad
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Middle East Beast



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kally Wally wrote:
MEB,

So where would you say is a decent place to work in the UAE?

or maybe the least bad


Interesting you should ask.

This past year HCT, in its ongoing infinite wisdom, forged an agreement with UAEU to force a large number of their teachers to go to FWC. Most of these teachers were quite unhappy with the arrangement and didn't care at all for FWC either. But they were a great group of men and women who I respected. They like their work at UAEU.

So, perhaps UAEU is decent. Their location is pretty cool--Al Ain. I had a great weekend there once. Quite a nightlife there, actually.

Another thing--Fujairah sucks for singles (at least this one).

I'd refer you to VS for more recommendations.

MEB Cool
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