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fieldsofbarley
Joined: 12 Nov 2010
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Location: Mexico City
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 Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:03 pm Post subject: Where in Asia? |
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Hi folks,
I�m planning my next move and would like some advice on location.
About me: female, UK degree (unrelated to teaching), CELTA, 1 year post-CELTA experience teaching mainly Business English (Mexico), non-native speaker (but no give away accent either). I would probably be moving with my partner, who is a qualified Spanish teacher.
Taking into account all of the above, which Asian countries would you suggest? I�d like to continue teaching Business English (so no public school jobs or young learners), I don�t like cold weather, Muslim countries (sorry if this sounds discriminatory, but I�ve had my share of bad experiences), and although I�m not big on shopping, eating out, etc., I don�t want to be working AND pinching pennies (I�d have stayed in the UK if I wanted that).
What I�m mainly looking for is a relatively hassle-free country to work in where I�ll not be discriminated against for not having one of those "big 5" passports.
So, your suggestions are welcome. |
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tttompatz
Joined: 06 Mar 2010
Posts: 1951
Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:51 pm Post subject: Re: Where in Asia? |
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| fieldsofbarley wrote: |
Hi folks,
I�m planning my next move and would like some advice on location.
About me: female, UK degree (unrelated to teaching), CELTA, 1 year post-CELTA experience teaching mainly Business English (Mexico), non-native speaker (but no give away accent either). I would probably be moving with my partner, who is a qualified Spanish teacher.
Taking into account all of the above, which Asian countries would you suggest? I�d like to continue teaching Business English (so no public school jobs or young learners), I don�t like cold weather, Muslim countries (sorry if this sounds discriminatory, but I�ve had my share of bad experiences), and although I�m not big on shopping, eating out, etc., I don�t want to be working AND pinching pennies (I�d have stayed in the UK if I wanted that).
What I�m mainly looking for is a relatively hassle-free country to work in where I�ll not be discriminated against for not having one of those "big 5" passports.
So, your suggestions are welcome. |
You'd have a problem in all of Asia because you don't have one of those "big 5" passports. In some countries it is NOT POSSIBLE to get a proper visa or work permit without it.
Off the bat you can rule out Korea - not possible without the passport.
Same with legal work in Vietnam.
Thailand is do-able but you will likely be paid at the lower end of the scale.
China is possible but it will be harder to find a job in a major center and you can pretty much rule out Beijing, Shanghai and the Pearl River delta.
Indonesia is an option.
You can also look at western Asia where your EU passport gets you in the door and the CELTA and your interview skills get you the job rather than "native speaker" status.
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Perilla
Joined: 09 Jul 2010
Posts: 792
Location: Hong Kong
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What on earth are the "big five" passports? And where is your passport from, FoB?
You could try HK. Spanish teachers are sought after here at the moment, so you might be able to follow your partner and (hopefully) find something when here - assuming he can find a job. |
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fieldsofbarley
Joined: 12 Nov 2010
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Location: Mexico City
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| Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the input. The "big 5" are countries whose first and official language is English.
I have a Spanish passport but I�m not qualified to teach the language (my partner is, so your suggestion about HK is interesting). And to be honest, due to my background and the amount of time I spent in the UK, I feel more comforable speaking and teaching English.
By the way...."Western Asia" as in....?? |
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tttompatz
Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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| Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:05 am Post subject: |
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| fieldsofbarley wrote: |
Thanks for the input. The "big 5" are countries whose first and official language is English.
I have a Spanish passport but I�m not qualified to teach the language (my partner is, so your suggestion about HK is interesting). And to be honest, due to my background and the amount of time I spent in the UK, I feel more comforable speaking and teaching English.
By the way...."Western Asia" as in....?? |
The western Asian countries would be in the yyy-istans or eastern Europe.
| Perilla wrote: |
| What on earth are the "big five" |
The big 5 are actually 6: (Ireland is English speaking and not a part of the UK) UK, Ireland, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand; the 6 developed anglophone countries.
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Steinmann
Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Posts: 255
Location: In the frozen north
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:27 am Post subject: |
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| tttompatz wrote: |
| Perilla wrote: |
| What on earth are the "big five" |
The big 5 are actually 6: (Ireland is English speaking and not a part of the UK) UK, Ireland, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand; the 6 developed anglophone countries. |
You're liable to irritate some South Africans around here. They get pretty testy over on the Korea forum when you exclude them from your list of English-speaking nations. |
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tttompatz
Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:18 am Post subject: |
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| Steinmann wrote: |
| tttompatz wrote: |
| Perilla wrote: |
| What on earth are the "big five" |
The big 5 are actually 6: (Ireland is English speaking and not a part of the UK) UK, Ireland, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand; the 6 developed anglophone countries. |
You're liable to irritate some South Africans around here. They get pretty testy over on the Korea forum when you exclude them from your list of English-speaking nations. |
Even though S.Africa is part of the commonwealth there are many immigration departments (outside of Korea) that do NOT consider South Africa to be a developed, anglophone country.
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wailing_imam
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 580
Location: Malaya
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| Though there are of course a fair number of native English speakers in South Africa, the majority of South Africans are not native English speakers. South Africa is therefore considered to be a ESL country (alongside India, Nigeria and Singapore) rather than an ENL country. |
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lacsap
Joined: 01 Apr 2007
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Location: South East Asia
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| True, most South Africans here in Brunei speak Afrikaans among themselves, can't really be seen as fully anglophone country. |
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wailing_imam
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