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Visa/work permit doable with MA TESOL, but no BA?

 
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Sudz



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:53 pm    Post subject: Visa/work permit doable with MA TESOL, but no BA? Reply with quote

Just as the title says - no further need for explanation Smile

Thanks
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Sudz



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nothing?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need either a BA or a college diploma with TESOL. The college diploma must be from a two-year programme at minimum.
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Sudz



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply.

Hmmm I have the TESOL, and the MA TESOL will - I believe - technically be a year and a half full-time. I guess this doesn't qualify me?
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TaoyuanSteve



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect no one is going to be able to answer your question definitively. I have my doubts, though. The MOE maintains a list of schools from English-speaking countries that it recognizes for the purposes of work permits. Not sure a school that would issue an MA to someone with no undergrad degree would be an accredited, recognized school (but, hey, I could just be biased and jealous. If I could have done an MA without doing my BA, wtf did I waste those years for? Wink ) You're just going to have to find out from the authorities yourself. Perhaps the best way is to see if you can get an offer and see if the school can process your work permit with your credential.
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Sudz



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply.

The degree is from Nottingham, a fairly well-regarded UK university. It seems as though there are UK schools that allow 'short cuts' into their MA programs.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose another way to check would be to take your credential to your local TECO office (Taiwan's defacto embassy) and see if they will validate it. One of the functions of TECO offices is verifying documents that originate in the countries where the offices are located. I think they would know if your degree would be accepted. Worth checking with them anyway.
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Sudz



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice. Well I've just contacted a school, asking whether an MA TESOL will suffice in lieu of a BA. Here's the reply.....

"Unfortunately it will not, according to our laws."

I guess that answers my question!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the major problem is most schools (and seems people on these forums) don't understand how you can get a MA without the BA. They automatically assume the degree is not the real deal or the university is not accredited and is some kind of diploma mill.

I know a few people who haved used their MA's to get work permits, they did have BA's, but the school or immigration didn't care and never asked to see their BA's.
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TaoyuanSteve



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sudz wrote:
Thanks for the advice. Well I've just contacted a school, asking whether an MA TESOL will suffice in lieu of a BA. Here's the reply.....

"Unfortunately it will not, according to our laws."

I guess that answers my question!


I would take your degree to TECO, tell them you want to work in Taiwan and ask them to notarize your degree. Don't mention anything about your program or give any other details. If they put their stamp on your degree and verify it, then you will never have any issues with it.

Do not volunteer any information about your program or your lack of an undergrad degree. Let them make the decision solely based on the credential.
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Sudz



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys. Taiwan is only one of many places where'd I'd like to work, but nevertheless I'll look more into it.

Yes someone mentioned to me on the China board that having just an MA notarized is a viable option. I've heard of this working in the Middle East as well.

Just as a reminder I have yet to even be accepted into this class (my application is currently being processed). Just trying to plan ahead.
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