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kaptaincangaroo



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:15 am    Post subject: safety in rural and urban areas Reply with quote

I plan on leaving to teach in Mexico in the spring. I was wondering if anyone had an opinion on whether or not it's generally safer to teach in small towns or cities; and if it is, is there a major difference in pay?
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TeresaLopez



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: safety in rural and urban areas Reply with quote

kaptaincangaroo wrote:
I plan on leaving to teach in Mexico in the spring. I was wondering if anyone had an opinion on whether or not it's generally safer to teach in small towns or cities; and if it is, is there a major difference in pay?


Mexico is a big country, there are areas that are safer than others, and in some cases, even smaller towns are not exempt from violence. Do you have any idea where you�d like to teach? If you could narrow it down a bit you�d probable get more useful information. The pay is generally somewhat lower, again, depending on where you are, but in some places the cost of living is lower too, in some places it isn�t.
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Professor



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:19 pm    Post subject: Re: safety in rural and urban areas Reply with quote

kaptaincangaroo wrote:
I plan on leaving to teach in Mexico in the spring. I was wondering if anyone had an opinion on whether or not it's generally safer to teach in small towns or cities; and if it is, is there a major difference in pay?


Mexico City probably pays the most I would think. Small towns are probably a joke by comparison, so head to the big city! I feel safer in Mexico City than I would in a small town because I stand out a lot and even when I go to Ixtapaluca, people stare a lot but in the DF they don't.

If you have beautiful, golden blond hair like I do, stay away from the small towns, you'll stand out too much. Cool
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MotherF



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pay depends on your qualifications and experience. You will not necessarily have more money in your pocket in a big city--that depends on what kind of work you can get.

I live in a small city, 80,000 people. I consider it very safe. The many crimes are car break-ins. If you don't have a car, or don't have a nice looking car, no problem.
I was pick pocketed once in town--I think. It's also plausible that I got distracted and dropped my wallet. But pickpocketed seems more likely. I've lived here almost 13 years. So once in 13 years is not bad. My husband drove off and left his back pack containing a netbook by the side of the road, we advertized for it's return, emphasising we wanted a textbook and the notes that were in the backpack more than anything else that the back pack may have contained, but they were never returned.

Oh and standing out has its advantages as well...
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A smaller city or town without a major problem with drug cartels is probably a safe place.

But big cities can also be safe, it depends on how you carry yourself and if you have street smarts as well.

I have found that the police in the DF tend to be less corrupt when compared to police next door in Mexico State, as an example.

Getting to know people (both expats and locals) and ask them for advice in the area you wind-up living and working. The better you know your neighbors and the safer you should be.
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kaptaincangaroo



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice; I was planning on teaching in DF because I'll probably be getting my CELTA there, and it does seem like the best place for pay although I can't find too much information on cost of living.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cost of living varies greatly in DF with your biggest cost being housing. A furnished room will rent between 1200 and 4000 pesos per month in a reasonable area of town for travel. You can find cheaper and you can find more expensive. A furnished apartment will go for 3000 and up.

DF is safe enough to be in...petty theft and car theft is what you'll find most here, so keep your wallet and purse safe and stay out of the parts of town known for crime.

As anywhere, it takes a bit of time to learn what's what. Get friendly with neighbors and you'll be steered in the right direction.
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Professor



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:

Get friendly with neighbors and you'll be steered in the right direction.


Yes and no. You still have to be careful with neighbors as well. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Professor wrote:
Guy Courchesne wrote:

Get friendly with neighbors and you'll be steered in the right direction.


Yes and no. You still have to be careful with neighbors as well. Crying or Very sad


Oh yeah..and getting to know the neighbors means the direction you could steer in is away to another hood. 1600 colonias to choose from!
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Professor



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:

Oh yeah..and getting to know the neighbors means the direction you could steer in is away to another hood. 1600 colonias to choose from!


That's a LOT!
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wildchild



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was wondering if anyone had an opinion on whether or not it's generally safer to teach in small towns or cities


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I was planning on teaching in DF


so it seems that your concern is with safety in DF and you are only considering a small town as an alternative. is this correct?

you are on the right path, keep doing some research.

DF is fun. just keep your wits about you when the sun goes down.

same can be said for a small town.

what exactly are you after? what is it that you desire?
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kaptaincangaroo



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my plan is to take the CELTA in DF and teach in Mexico to make enough money to pay for my BA degree. Once I have my degree I'll probably try to find work in Asia. I understand pretty much wherever I go the pay is going to be pretty lousy, but I can still use the experience since I plan to make a career out of this. Thanks for the advice.
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kaptaincangaroo wrote:
my plan is to take the CELTA in DF and teach in Mexico to make enough money to pay for my BA degree.


Umm... Question

Not sure you could even make enough to save much, let alone enough to pay for a BA degree.

Wages in Mexico haven't moved much in the time I've been here, COL has been going up every few months...

Basic budget here is about $3,000 pesos for rent, plus expenses, I would say that a regular EFL gig at a language school might pay $8,000 pesos per month.

I really doubt you could save much, if anything on that kinda salary.

I am not trying to be rude, just realistic here.

Not sure why you would want to try and save money with a TEFL gig in Mexico. COL is pretty high, esp. when compared to income.
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kaptaincangaroo



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't expecting I'd be able to make much teaching in Mexico. I probably will try to find work somewhere else in Latin America if I can't find. Since I don't have a BA my only option is Latin America; and I can use the teaching experience either way. thanks for the dose of realism by the way.
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kaptaincangaroo wrote:
I wasn't expecting I'd be able to make much teaching in Mexico. I probably will try to find work somewhere else in Latin America if I can't find. Since I don't have a BA my only option is Latin America; and I can use the teaching experience either way. thanks for the dose of realism by the way.


I know you can teach in Indonesia, PRC, Cambodia and Vietnam without a degree.

You can check out the pay and COL in other L. America countries, but I can tell you that in Peru, $500USD a month is the norm...

I think you would be better off to stay wherever and finish your degree first. Pay anywhere in Latin America is low. And if you really want to make a career of EFL worldwide, you really need that degree.
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