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lupin71



Joined: 22 Apr 2004
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Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:57 am    Post subject: Big people in little Japan Reply with quote

I'm curious to know what it is like for bigger people living in a country where anemities, clothing, customs, etc... are suited for a physically smaller population. I'm 6foot 3inches tall and weigh 240 lbs. What are the advantages and disadvantages to this? Any insight is much appreciated.

Cheers,

L71
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Japan, you'll only be 220 pounds because the scales only go to 100 kgs most of the time. Laughing

You will have a really hard (if not impossible) time finding clothes or shoes that fit you. Bring all the clothes that you'll need. Maybe a big city will have a Big and Tall type of clothing store.

You wil be a celebrity of sorts as you will stick out even more than the rest of us. You'll wack your head on the doorways more times than you can count and I bet even get some stitches too. I got 8 one time.

When you go out to restaurants you'll probably want/need to order two portions as the serving size here is small. You'll get used to it though as your stomach will undoubtably shrink.
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Brooks



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are big and tall stores in Tokyo.
Some people like to go to American stores like Eddie Bauer or the Gap for clothing.

On the plus side, you won`t get pushed and shoved on trains.
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Canuck2112



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'm one of the bigger people in my prefecture. There are big and tall shops in some of the larger cities, but these tend to cater to overweight people only. If you're built like Grimace from McDonalds you'll be all set, but if you're muscular you're out of luck. I've tried on a few dress shirts at B and T shops...tiny shoulders and essentially a parachutes worth of material around the waist. I brought a bunch of clothes from back home...when these run out I'll take to ordering clothes online (despite the hefty importation tax).

That said, jeans shouldnt be a problem provided your waist isnt too big. I'm 6'4" with a 36 inch waist and I've had no problem getting jeans that fit. Same goes shorts.

Shoes are out of the question for me. The biggest size I've seen is a Canadian 11.5. Again, you might consider ordering these online or just bringing enough from home.
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lupin71



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys for the info. I guess I should have been more specific. I'm not worried about finding clothes or shoes as I have already planned to bring an extensive wardrobe. But I have to say I'm surprised nobody's mentioned using a japanese toilet? Embarassed Laughing

So to get to the point are there plenty of "western toilets" to use or am I doomed to squat.

Also something else I should have mentioned. I am recovering from knee surgery and don't plan on coming over until I can walk properly without the aid of a cruth or cane. But sitting "seiza" or cross legged has always been a problem for me because of my size and I fear even more so now because of the condition of my knee. Does anyone find themselves sitting in this position on a regular basis.
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canuck



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uniqlo has clothes that will fit big and tall foreigners. It's cheaper than Canada too.
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guest of Japan



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Japanese will not expect you to sit seiza style. In fact they'll be pretty amazed if you do. There are lots of opportunities to sit cross-legged, but no one will bat an eyelash if you stretch you legs out under the table and say that you are a bad Japanese person.

The squatting toilet can be avoided (usually).

As for clothes and shoes I can't be much help because everything fits me perfectly in this country.
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Celeste



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My husband is 6'1" tall and about 90 kilos. We can get clothes for him at Uniglo, Costco, and sports authority. For shoes (he wears size 12) there is sports authority and I have heard of a big&tall shop in town. My husband has done himself a bit of forehead damage in our apartment (often going through the bathroom door at night. A friend of ours is 6'5" tall and doesn't seem to go around naked, so there must be things around that would fit you as well.
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lupin71 wrote:


Also something else I should have mentioned. I am recovering from knee surgery and don't plan on coming over until I can walk properly without the aid of a cruth or cane. But sitting "seiza" or cross legged has always been a problem for me because of my size and I fear even more so now because of the condition of my knee. Does anyone find themselves sitting in this position on a regular basis.


The only time I have ever sat in seiza was attending a funeral (father in law) and its unlikely you will attend any funerals here unless you acquire relatives or a student or work acquaintance meets an early demise (has happened to me twice). Even then its probably OK to sit crosslegged or sit with legs sideways with one leg on top of the other. Many women here sit like that with their legs folded behind them. Noone will mind if you dont sit seiza-style as many Japanese have trouble with it too.

Many railway toilets only have Japanese style toilets but the bigger ones in main stations etc will have western-style ones. Its a good idea to carry tissues too as many public toilets do not stock toilet paper. Pilfering is a big problem.
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lupin71



Joined: 22 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all for your advice. As I mentioned before I plan on bringing enough clothes to last me at least a year but it is good to know I wont be at a total loss for choice if I need something spur of the moment!

Cheers,

L71
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Lynn



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the others that you'll probably never have to sit seiza. We are gaijin, after all. Wink Hell, I don't even sit seiza and I'm a girl!

Will you be teaching children? I've had big coworkers who got abused by children. They see you as indestructable, so they'll kick and punch a little too much a little too hard. They don't mean any harm. It's just horse-play kicked up a notch. Be aware of that. And also don't be afraid to have a serious talk with the Japanese staff about this, too.

Good luck and you will get a little more attention. It unavoidable. I wonder if you have blond hair and blue eyes too. Exclamation
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Canuck2112



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kids will also inevitably try and stick their hands into your @ss.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canuck2112 wrote:
Kids will also inevitably try and stick their hands into your @ss.


When I was in Korea, the things kids always did to each other and to teachers Evil or Very Mad was to put their hands together (like you're praying) and then poke each other in the bum crack. Shocked It happened to me a couple of times until I grabbed one kids fingers and almost snapped them. Never happened again at the school. Laughing
The joys of teaching children.
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Lynn



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gordon wrote:
Canuck2112 wrote:
Kids will also inevitably try and stick their hands into your @ss.


When I was in Korea, the things kids always did to each other and to teachers Evil or Very Mad was to put their hands together (like you're praying) and then poke each other in the bum crack. Shocked It happened to me a couple of times until I grabbed one kids fingers and almost snapped them. Never happened again at the school. Laughing
The joys of teaching children.


This is a Japanese game as well. It's called "kancho" or something. I think it means "goose". They even sing a little song when the do that prayer thing.
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lupin71



Joined: 22 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lynn wrote:
I wonder if you have blond hair and blue eyes too. Exclamation



Nope tall, dark, and handsome...well not so much dark. But tall and handsome. My mom told me so. Anyhoo I'll most likely be teaching kids with some adults as privates once I get more established. BUt being the centre of attention will be interesting.

The hands in the bum crack thing is puzzling though. What on earth would make someone think that's funny? I'm great with kids so I'll find a way to get back at them somehow without being labled a pervert.

I know in the tea ceremony you are required to sit seiza but I wasn't sure what the normwas in other situations. I hope I don't have to attend any funerals, but if I do I can put up with a bit of pain. After all things could be worse.
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