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alinyusa



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:51 am    Post subject: waiting for that callback Reply with quote

How do you deal with waiting for that callback from HCT or other places?
Its frustrating and it seems like checking your email constantly or refreshing this page wouldn't make anyone to call you. Shocked
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elmoro



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@alinyusa,

i hope this is for a full time position and not adjunct. i have noticed that you have been asking a lot of questions about adjunct positions. you realize that adjunct positions in the uae do not provide a residence visa or housing, don't you? what ever you do, do not go to the uae without a full time position.

elmoro

THE HORROR, THE HORROR!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or a spouse that has a contract that provides you with the right to live there.

VS
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alinyusa



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I have a residence visa through my current employer.
My main point is how to deal with this nonsense waiting and waiting and waiting. If they have got what they want, why the positions are still open? 89 of them for almost a year?
I don't understand the whole story behind keeping people waiting with no straight answer. When you call HR they say, we haven't received any request form our colleges to interview you so you can wait for 6 months and then apply again since your current application will expire after 6 months.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ali, forget HCT and move on with your life. Apply to other colleges - they'll all be better than HCT, I reckon, and you won't be so dependent on just one potential employer.

A wife of a colleague was actually interviewed several years ago, and was told she'd passed. Since then ... nothing! Fortunately she had another job lined up, so it meant nothing to her.

I would suggest you do the same.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alinyusa wrote:
My main point is how to deal with this nonsense waiting and waiting and waiting.


I'm an HR official with the HCT. We, the HCT, are NOT "making you wait". We are testing your patience which the students, should you be hired, will also test on an hourly basis.

We, at the HCT, find it more efficient to determine the truly interminably patient teachers as opposed to those who merely inform us of this during the interview.

We WILL get back to you...











or not.

HCTHR
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alinyusa wrote:
Ok, I have a residence visa through my current employer.

Yes, but if you leave that employer, the visa is canceled... so you couldn't then take an adjunct position with HCT or anyone else.

HR is correct that if a college has not shown an interest in your CV, there is nothing they can do about it. It is just another way of saying. no luck this time... your CV doesn't match what they want... sorry. I would apply elsewhere... or keep waiting... seems to be your only two options.

VS
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alinyusa



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its funny that I left a very good job in the US for my current job in UAE. I am a Cornell alumna, but it looks like no one cares about the school that you went to.

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helenl



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which school you went to has little or no impact on HR - most people in HR are not American (if any) so many would not realize the "impact" the name Cornell wields on some of the weaker minded. Sorry, being a graduate of Cornell is meaningless - GW Bush was a graduate of Yale - whoo hoo.

As for 89 positions being available - there are literally hundreds available, they just advertise the requirements for the actual job, not how many bodies are actually required - that would take several pages.

As someone else pointed out, if you leave your current employer your visa will be cancelled and HCT does not provide documents for adjuncts, so I hope Rolling Eyes this is a permanent position
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alinyusa



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who does the screening? HR or the colleges? I know HR does prescreening.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HR does an initial screening... goes to interview which is an alternating group from various colleges... if one passes, it then goes into the "pool" for the type of position you applied for. Then if a college needs someone to teach EFL or Business or Math or whatever, HR forwards them the CVs that fit their request from the pool. They may get 3 or 4 or 10 to choose from...

So, if you passed the interview and went into the pool, it awaits a college showing interest in you... which is what the HR person meant saying that you were in the pool, and when you should re-apply if nothing comes up now. There is no way to predict anything in this process.

VS
(and Helen is right... your degree is all that matters, not which university it came from... And being Irani shouldn't be a major problem in content courses. The faculty is mixed nationality.)
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Sheikh N Bake



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And studies in the US show that over time, graduates of the most elite colleges are no more successful or making more money than those who went to more obscure institutions. On the other hand, George W does not diminish the deservedly high reputation of a Yale or a Cornell. The "gentleman's C" has been around for centuries.
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alinyusa



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it looks like HCT people are really slow in processing the applications. I took them 5 weeks to screen my application and to put me in their talent pool.
If I weren't in this situation, being jobless and away from family, I could have waited for months, but now... its really tough to wait even for a day. I have applied to some other schools in the UAE, but I haven't heard from them either so I don't really know if they need me or they have rejected my application.
Inshallah I will hear from them.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alinyusa wrote:
Ok, I have a residence visa through my current employer.

So... you have lost this job? or quit? Normally an employer cancels your visa if you leave because otherwise they are unable to replace you.

VS
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume you're doing visit visa runs because once your residency is cancelled you have at most 30 days to leave the country. You're playing a game you could well lose if that's the case. From what I understand at HCT they have a surplus of EFL staff (because of the changes in diploma/higher diploma programs taking place) you may be superfluous to surplufuous staff.
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