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Dish Washer



Joined: 13 Sep 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:23 pm    Post subject: Question about Class Monitor Reply with quote

I have some questions about the classroom monitors.

1. Is a monitor in every, single, class?

2. How are they chosen?

3. Why don't monitors communicate with the foreign teacher, instead of telling a coordinator or director to pass on a message about wanting more grammar, more listening, or games, or whatever.

I'm a newbie who's curious about this, as in the west, we never had monitors in class.

Do neighboring countries of Vietnam have monitors? Is this just a Vietnamese concept?
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Andy123



Joined: 24 Sep 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A monitor is a nice name for their job. They are there to watch you. It is a power thing. Yes, other Asian countries have them but this concept seems to be the most accepted SOP.

One time a campus manager of one of the largest schools in the city told me to tell the other teachers that she had listening devices in the teacher's room. I'm certain it was BS. It is just a way to tell the teachers to be careful what you say.
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snollygoster



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:52 am    Post subject: Monitor Reply with quote

You mean the "Snitch". She (it usually is a she, but not always) is expected to check that you are doing exactly what the boss wants, and ask the students if they like you.
Fortunately, the "monitor" is usually employed in the schools with shaky reputations and shady management- they are looking for any excuse to tip you out if you dont play to the party line.
Also, if you do any real teaching, (you know, with a modicum of academic integrity) the students may not "like" you because you actually have expectations of their academic progress and may even encourage (force) them to do some study or participate when they just want to speak Vietnamese, eat and drink in the class-room, take long breaks, and use their mobile phones.
If they dont like you, then the parents and other finance suppliers may not re-enrol. So if you want to be a teacher teacher instead of a happy clappy nice guy who plays games for no purpose other than to be a rock star, then maybe you are not a "good" teacher. Turf him/her out or we may have to pay for a Work Permit- get a new chum for 3 months and do the same!.

Your "monitor" is a snitch.
If you have a monitor (I dont mean a TA for low level classes) then you are working for the wrong school (is schoool the correct word? I dont think so- child minding facility.-Rip off joint)
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Oh My God



Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Monitor Reply with quote

snollygoster wrote:
You mean the "Snitch". She (it usually is a she, but not always) is expected to check that you are doing exactly what the boss wants, and ask the students if they like you.
Fortunately, the "monitor" is usually employed in the schools with shaky reputations and shady management- they are looking for any excuse to tip you out if you dont play to the party line.
Also, if you do any real teaching, (you know, with a modicum of academic integrity) the students may not "like" you because you actually have expectations of their academic progress and may even encourage (force) them to do some study or participate when they just want to speak Vietnamese, eat and drink in the class-room, take long breaks, and use their mobile phones.


If you read my posts here a lot, you'll hear me going on about "adaption" quite often. Mainly because this has become such a re-occurring process for myself in the ESL Edutainment Industry in Vietnam.

But having said that, there is a touch of truth in it. Creativity and continually redoing the classroom dynamic (admittedly by trail and error) is the kind of thing that keeps me fresh with my approaches. The possibilities are endless!

The main problem with the "Monitor" is that this extremely limits the time that you have to adapt and explore your options. IPS and AHS is a prime example but I'd submit to you that (at least) the complaints would be of a more consistent nature than those from the students.

Is the Monitor a snitch? Yeah, but there all kinds of snitches here.

Center in on your true purpose and moderate it to work by Edutainment standards - it's unavoidable but you CAN handle it. Good Luck!
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otto88



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:39 pm    Post subject: snolly Reply with quote

hihi.. snolly, you crack me up.. lol
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flyingmonkey



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I thought that Vietnamese students had a lot of respect for a teacher's authority.
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VietCanada



Joined: 30 Nov 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My school puts an experienced (usually) Vietnamese teacher in the class with me. I love it. I work with these people to get the best possible outcomes for my students. Of course part of their job is to write reports about me, that is not a big secret.

If you can do the job with a reasonable degree of competence then classroom spies are not an issue. Keep the lines of communication open. If your school is run questionably then keep your resume out there and your options open.

You can go crazy worrying about stuff like this.
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The Mad Hatter



Joined: 16 May 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know where you heard this about class monitors. Ive never seen one and I dont know where your explanation of one comes from because I've never had this. Its been my experience that anything that happens in the class will get back to the school support staff - good or bad. That's different than a co-teacehr. Schools like ILA & AHS have a Viet teacher in the room, and that's not the same as monitor. They are good to have around actually. You have to remember in general the culture is pretty much monitoring one another in their own way , always being curious, watching things. so it's just a fact of life here that you are in a fish bowl and you get used to it.
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Andy123



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mad Hatter we are not talking about co-teachers. I know for a fact that many, many schools assign a class monitor (student) to classes. Trust people like Snollyguster and others who have been here awhile.

It occurs in several Asian countries as well.
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deadlift



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few years back doing some volunteering travel, and I agreed to do some teaching at a small university in one of the smaller cities.

When I arrived at one particular class, I noticed an older man dressed in woeful business attire, sitting at the back of the class. He stood in stark contrast to the other dozen or so 20 year old women students. For the whole time, he said nothing, even when I addressed him directly. I am quite sure he didn't even speak English.

I didn't bother asking anyone about it, but I am sure that the