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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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People have been asking this question here now since June... and all we hear is
crickets...
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MecMS
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| The crickets are not going to be chirping anymore. I can state as an employee of the company in question that I don't know a single person who is satisfied with the experience. Aside from being paid (though not on time) for our teaching, we have had countless promises broken, and we have not yet been reimbursed for expenses incurred to get our visa (they were supposed to be repaid many weeks ago). I don't care to get into details since just about everything related to the company has been frustrating, but I can unequivocally state that management is disorganized, unhelpful, the personalities of people in authority throughout the country are almost universally seen as unpleasant, and I would not wish this job on people looking to have a positive experience in KSA. |
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GladToBeFree
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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brasscat
Joined: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 245 Location: Farpoint Mindstation
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:12 am Post subject: WARNING ABOUT AMERICAN HIGHER ED |
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I worked for American Higher Ed in Jeddah.
They owe me over $3500 in pay and medical costs. After 1 month still no money.
The Jeddah Compound is at the end of the main runway of Jeddah International. Planes fly over the villas every 3 minute, below 1500 ft.
It is located 1 hour from the school and city.
There was black mold in half of the villas.
That was the good part! Send a message for the major bad news.
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caballo
Joined: 06 Apr 2008 Posts: 39
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:57 am Post subject: American Higher Ed. |
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| I interviewed with them last summer, and did not reach an agreement with them. It didn't seem right. For example, they would not specify the number of contact hours. I'm sorry to hear that teachers with them have had a difficult time, but I'm happy that I avoided it at least. |
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brasscat
Joined: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 245 Location: Farpoint Mindstation
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:46 pm Post subject: Further Info |
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AHEd contracts to provide teachers for several locations in Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Labor Law says; A work permit is required to work in the KSA under contract. AHEd sent 80 teachers in on business visas. Also after 4 months no Iqamas have been issued.
Current employees are being sent to Abu Dubai for business visa renewals.
I still have not been paid my November pay check.
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caballo
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:26 am Post subject: More deceptive practices in the Kingdom |
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| Their recruiters/interviewers specifically and repeatedly promised me last summer that no teachers would be sent to Saudi Arabia without the proper work visas. This is yet another third-rate, rogue employer. (For information on another egregiously bad operation, see my entries on Saad Group-now bankrupt and virtually defunct.) Why doesn't the government of Saudi Arabia clean up its act and crack down on these criminals? |
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brasscat
Joined: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 245 Location: Farpoint Mindstation
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:04 am Post subject: Simple |
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When you pay the right person, then you play. See the point?
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caballo
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:18 am Post subject: Deceptive practices |
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Of course we can't blame the Saudis for the entire fiasco. American and other non-Saudi recruiters help perpetrate this kind of fraud on unsuspecting teachers like yourself. Without a proper work permit, you have no legal standing in the Kingdom. If you have to pass through a roadblock or find yourself mixed up with the police in some way... Do the authorities(clowns?) at your school at least allow you to keep your passport?
I sometimes wonder how some of these mendacious recruiters manage to sleep at night. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: Deceptive practices |
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| caballo wrote: |
| Of course we can't blame the Saudis for the entire fiasco. American and other non-Saudi recruiters help perpetrate this kind of fraud on unsuspecting teachers like yourself. |
Well... I'd say that we can. The Saudi government has not only let these kind of practices exist... but to thrive and nearly take over education hiring. It is not as though their embassies can't see what is happening with all these illegal visas being handed out like candy to teachers.
The only answer is that these recruiters are paying big bribes to the proper Saudi princes who insist that this "wonderful practice" continue. They couldn't care less about the conditions for teachers... any more than they care about their other slaves and servants.
And their cure for the word getting out is for the Saudi government to now block this forum... from the teachers who are already trapped in their system. The only possible way for this to change is for educators to not accept these jobs.
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brasscat
Joined: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 245 Location: Farpoint Mindstation
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:48 pm Post subject: A Great Escape |
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A fellow Instructor e-mailed me today and said he had escaped the Jeddah/AHEd trap.
He is now in Kabul, Afghanistan. Does this give you an idea of how bad the situation is?
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caballo
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject: Saudi corruption |
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Of course, Saudi Arabia is a corrupt country. that goes without saying. Transparency International ranks it 50th in the world and that may be too generous. But this type of employment fraud is aided and abetted by non-Saudis:the avaricious and despicable recruiters. It would not be possible without their complicity because Saudis are unable to recruit on their own.
The only possible way for this to change is for educators to not accept these jobs.
What do you mean by these jobs? All jobs in Saudi? Are there any reputable employers? In a country rife with corruption, who can you trust? |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:26 am Post subject: Re: Saudi corruption |
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| caballo wrote: |
| ... because Saudis are unable to recruit on their own. |
Why not? They can do like other employers do and have an HR department. For two of my four jobs in the Gulf, I was interviewed and hired by the local Arabs. Didn't seem like rocket science to me...
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The only possible way for this to change is for educators to not accept these jobs.
What do you mean by these jobs? |
That should be obvious... the jobs that are breaking the law by bringing you over on a business visa and not providing an iqama.
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| Are there any reputable employers? |
Sure... there aren't any perfect employers, but there are some reputable employers. Some of the universities are OK... like KFUPM. There's IPA. And likely some that I have never heard of because they don't get talked about here. There are oil and military related teaching jobs that seem to be mostly legit.
But to be honest... if I were a new teacher to the Middle East, I would put Saudi at the end of my list and stick to the more predictable countries... where everyone gets a legal work visa... and you can buy a beer at the local pub.
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agmoe519
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:29 am Post subject: Negotiating |
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I am currently negotiating for a contract with AHed.
They are telling me that they want to send me over on a Business Visa.
No word on the salary yet. My expectation is btw 3000 and 4000 USD a month.
Awaiting the contract to be mailed to me for review.
Looking for info from people who have worked for them ... |
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trapezius

Joined: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 1670 Location: Land of Culture of Death & Destruction
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Looking for info from people who have worked for them ... |
Umm, dude, did you read any of the posts on this page at all? You still want to go there? Of course you do, because you are not even reading the posts in this thread even while responding to the same thread. |
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