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Isla Guapa

Joined: 19 Apr 2010
Posts: 1520
Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:55 am Post subject:

TeresaLopez wrote:

Enchilada Potosina wrote:

English teacher with all the qualification you could wish for and a native speaker with a tefl cert, ink still wet, is also a no-brainer.

I know and I hate that. Something I constantly butt heads with my boss about. I have gotten resumes from some non-native speakers who would have been great teachers, but he refuses to hire them, though, ironically HE is a non�native speaker himself. I think he might be coming around, though,

Let's keep in mind that there are many Mexican English teachers who can barely carry on a conversation in the language they profess to be able to teach. That could be one reason why many schools are reluctant to hire any of them. It's just easier to require that all teachers hired be native speakers and leave it at that.

Enchilada Potosina

Joined: 03 Aug 2010
Posts: 344
Location: Mexico

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:07 am Post subject:

Isla Guapa wrote:

It's just easier to require that all teachers hired be native speakers and leave it at that.

But not legal... I agree, most have horrendous English but it's not fair on those that are truly bilingual but have Mexican names. I once heard a Mexican language school coordinator say ��Como crees que voy a mandar a un p*nche mexicano a dar clase en la zona industrial?!

Due to the lack of foreigners in SLP (aforementioned selection of some of crappiest and shadiest language schools in Mexico), schools have had to hire non-native speakers.

Isla Guapa

Joined: 19 Apr 2010
Posts: 1520
Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:34 am Post subject:

Enchilada Potosina wrote:

Isla Guapa wrote:

It's just easier to require that all teachers hired be native speakers and leave it at that.

I'm curious. Why isn't it legal to require that an English teacher a school hires be a native speaker? Of course, this attitude is not fair to those Mexicans who speak the language well or are bilingual or native speakers with Spanish names. That language school coordinator sounds like a real idiot. Kind of a linguistic racist, if that's possible. Talk about self-hatred, or maybe he used p*nche in an affectionate joking way Wink

Samantha

Joined: 25 Oct 2003
Posts: 2038
Location: Mexican Riviera

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:01 am Post subject:

Because the law says no more than 10% of staff is permitted to be foreign workers, whether from Canada, or from Argentina.

TeresaLopez

Joined: 18 Apr 2010
Posts: 601
Location: Mexico City

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:08 am Post subject:

Isla Guapa wrote:

Yes, true enough, but I have bet more than a few who are quite fluent and very good teachers, probably better than a lot of native speakers. The least a school could do is hire on a case by case basis.

Enchilada Potosina

Joined: 03 Aug 2010
Posts: 344
Location: Mexico

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:34 am Post subject:

Isla Guapa wrote:

That language school coordinator sounds like a real idiot. Kind of a linguistic racist, if that's possible. Talk about self-hatred, or maybe he used p*nche in an affectionate joking way Wink

Unfortunately she was serious... I have actually asked a lot of students in company classes if they'd mind having a Mexican teacher. Not one said a flat-out no, in fact most said they wouldn't mind as long as the teacher spoke good English. I was surprised. If you work in a few language schools here you get the idea that companies only want native speakers (preferably hot and blonde) as teachers but I don't think it's the case. They want good teachers.

Isla Guapa

Joined: 19 Apr 2010
Posts: 1520
Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:35 am Post subject:

Samantha wrote:

Because the law says no more than 10% of staff is permitted to be foreign workers, whether from Canada, or from Argentina.

Thanks for reminding me about that law, Samantha. I wonder how many schools follow that law to the letter.

Isla Guapa

Joined: 19 Apr 2010
Posts: 1520
Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:38 am Post subject:

TeresaLopez wrote:

Isla Guapa wrote:

I agree. I wonder why they don't. This is a guess on my part, but as a strong selling point, don't a lot of schools advertise that they are staffed with native-speaker teachers?

Isla Guapa

Joined: 19 Apr 2010
Posts: 1520
Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:43 am Post subject:

Enchilada Potosina wrote: