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What would be the best degree to aim for?
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:08 pm    Post subject: Re: What would be the best degree to aim for? Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:
Prof.Gringo wrote:

Avoid all Lib Art majors like the plague.
Engineering and business tend to be the best majors.
For the vast majority of EFL jobs, it simply does not matter what your major was in. So get a useful undergrad degree and then take a CELTA and you will be on your way.


Liberal Arts majors:
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The contemporary liberal arts comprise studying literature, languages, philosophy, history, mathematics, and science.[1]

from Wikipedia.
So saying to avoid liberal arts majors is very close to saying avoid majoring in anything you study at primary or secondary school.

I'd respectfully Smile disagree. My Liberal Arts degree was in Studio Arts and Business Management. I did two internships, one in each major. At the Smithsonian. That's pretty good Smile!


Alrighty then! Not really sure where the disagreement is, though... Confused

I'm not saying that I agree with the idea of avoiding the liberal arts (that term wasn't used in the universities I went to in Canada. We used the term 'Arts and Science' but then at one university Fine Arts was another faculty. At another somehow music had it's own faculty, but visual art was in the arts and sciences. It's just how the universities divide up academic areas.

I was just pointing out that saying to avoid the 'liberal arts' is saying to avoid a big chunk of the initial undergraduate degrees at most universities (most of what I've studied is in the 'humanities' areas, which is a part of the liberal arts based on the definition from Wikipedia. Also 'education' is either a post, or concurrent program in Ontario. A B.Ed is a year long program, the same as a PGCE in the UK, so it cannot be considered available to undergraduates the way say English literature is available).
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MarkieP52



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I appreciate all the answers, I can say for sure buisness is not my cup of tea. I'll look into the suggestions here and just try to make the best decision. Thanks again!
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spanglish



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a degree in the language of the region in which you want to teach.
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spanglish wrote:
Get a degree in the language of the region in which you want to teach.


That's good advice (and note: languages are part of the Humanities, which in turn are part of the liberal arts).

The only issue is that there are many, many areas of the world where there isn't a language of the region, and each country has it's own language.
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denise



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And it's good advice until you start country/region/language-hopping! I

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johnhearst



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:53 am    Post subject: Re: What would be the best degree to aim for? Reply with quote

Definitely you can stay in school for your Master because the job market is not good.


naturegirl321 wrote:
GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:
Prof.Gringo wrote:

Avoid all Lib Art majors like the plague.
Engineering and business tend to be the best majors.
For the vast majority of EFL jobs, it simply does not matter what your major was in. So get a useful undergrad degree and then take a CELTA and you will be on your way.


Liberal Arts majors:
Quote:
The contemporary liberal arts comprise studying literature, languages, philosophy, history, mathematics, and science.[1]

from Wikipedia.
So saying to avoid liberal arts majors is very close to saying avoid majoring in anything you study at primary or secondary school.

I'd respectfully Smile disagree. My Liberal Arts degree was in Studio Arts and Business Management. I did two internships, one in each major. At the Smithsonian. That's pretty good Smile!
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Muhammed Abbas Khan



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could consider studying at the University of Westminster. You can combine Chinese language with another subject such as English language, Linguistics, or English Literature.
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Zero



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

artemisia wrote:
I think getting a degree does matter quite a bit - for China, too. You could do what the above poster suggested but you might also want to consider what you think you'll be doing long term. I assume you haven't done teaching before so is that likely to be TEFL or secondary school teaching?

If you think TEFL is something for the short term and are not interested in being a school teacher, then think about English Literature with possibly some linguistics papers and /or combining that with a TEFL certificate such as CELTA or Trinity College. Later you have the option of an MA in Eng Lit etc. and possibly pursuing a uni route of work through assistantships.
I'd also suggest talking to Faculty of Arts advisors at whatever uni you plan to go to as they'll hopefully be able to point you in the direction of a number of course combination options.


I totally disagree. For TEFL, any degree will work. For post-TEFL life, English literature is one of the degrees with the least possible practical application.

I'd go for something useful. Probably education or business. If you have the aptitude, something related to math, science or engineering would be even better.
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ls650



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the degree that will mean the most to you on a personal level - don't make the mistake I did of majoring in a field that you think will always get you a job. Finding a decent-paying job is really never that difficult for someone with a good work ethic.

My major was in computer science. It's true that with this major I've never had a problem finding work in IT... but they've been boring jobs. If I were able to go back in time, I'd tell myself not to worry about finding work, but to study a field I found personally enriching.
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