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igorG
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| noone pays that much for a visa through any Chinese consulate or legitimate company. |
Looks like wolves smell the food better than see it. "noone" and "legitimate company" on mainland 
Seriously, there are more and more desperate FTs and it's sometimes uneasy to pinpoint an illegit company around 
Yet again, some would prey and prey and then mislead and mislead. |
you cant get a chinese F visa "on mainland." you get it from a chinese consulate or private company abroad. companies which may or may not be associated with the mainland. post the link that proves your "friend" paid RMB10,000 for his F visa. |
Deceptions of readers and then requests for some proof a routine? Putting the Guangdong agency or the FT iin case in the spotlight here wouldn't serve us all well, would it?
Understandably, some employers or frustrated recruiters have troubles with visas for FTs but then some don't. It depends, doesn't it? If we are so inept, we can still make that Hong Kong run, can't we? Then, if the mainland system plays tricks or casts shadows on us, we are forced to do what we have to do, don't we?
On the end, a FT pays 'cause he/she agrees to pay or has to pay for reasons, although agreeably, some businesses take advantage of the situation. The local system plays into the cards of employers and recruiters rather than FTs, doesn't it? |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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From personal experience, yes.
I am married to a Chinese lass, and I hold duel Canadian and British citizenship. I have never had any problems re-newing on my Canadian passport until now. Now they want me to do it on my British passport. And they have said that I have to go to the original nation and enter China from the passport country (which means I have to go to the UK).
So yes, at least for me, they peed in my cornflakes big time. |
Did they state a reason? |
Yes.
They said that China does not recognize duel citizenships of any nationalities as it is China's own policy that Chinese cannot hold two citizenships. They do not believe that people are allowed to be the citizen of two different sovereign nations.
I was married on my UK passport. I am here on my Canadian passport. |
Just tell them you denounce your UK citizenship and can't use it. You must use the Canadian because it is the only legal one.
Understand you've driven this bind, but even more details are wanted. How did they come to know? How did they decide which passport you could use?
I am not trying to be an ass here I just don't understand. |
Simple.
When you are married and go to get your visa you have to show proof of marriage. In China they have 'marriage books' which look like passports.
They looked the marriage book (which says 大不列颠和北爱尔兰联合王国) and looked at my Canadian passport and said 'No no no!'
大不列颠和北爱尔兰联合王国 is 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland)
Last year, no problem.
This year, it is a problem. |
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wangdaning
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| Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:14 am Post subject: |
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Do you really have to show them you are married when you get a visa? I haven't got a new visa for over two years, and got married after I got that visa. I can't ever remember anyone asking about marriage. I have never been asked to show my book to anyone.
Can you get the marriage book amended? My wife seems to think they wont do it as it is not their mistake. I assume you are doing it with the UK passport for a reason. I still just think you can leave the jiehun zheng out of the visa application process. |
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portslee
Joined: 15 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:57 am Post subject: |
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Just my own experience, but I've been issued two Z visas since I've been in China. I never had to leave the country and had no trouble at all.
For the first, my employer took my passport and returned it within two weeks complete with Z visa and RP, they also showed me the FEC.
On the second occasion (last September) I simply went to Shanghai for a day, paid 1200RMB at the police/immigration office (forget what it's actually called) and they mailed my passport back to me the following week, complete with visa.
Easy. |
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cormac
Joined: 04 Nov 2008
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Location: Xi'an (XTU)
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| Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I'm in the middle of getting my fourth visa from outside of China, and its taking a while, simply because of the requirement for an STD test. Here in Ireland the test takes 3 weeks to be processed, so once that's done I'll still have to wait the "usual" time for the invitation letter from the University.
Every other time I got my visa without such tests, but it seems they're becoming necessary. |
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seamallowance
Joined: 20 Apr 2010
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Location: Weishan, Jining, Shandong
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| Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| Here in Ireland the test takes 3 weeks to be processed, |
I wonder what the reason is for such a delay. |
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johntpartee
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| Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:08 am Post subject: |
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| I used to work at a place that tested for employment and international travel; drugs, alcohol, disease. We had a "quick test" whereby obvious stuff would show up immediately; for the more in depth analysis the sample was shipped to a lab. The process usually took 2-3 weeks. |
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cormac
Joined: 04 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:33 am Post subject: |
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| Here in Ireland the test takes 3 weeks to be processed, |
I wonder what the reason is for such a delay. |
Its the Aids test component. All the other tests are relatively quick, but apparently Aids takes longer to test for. |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Yea, no AIDS in China, would hate for AIDS to come in from 'waiguo'.
Fasiscious hat off now, I wonder when the nation of China as a whole will make some national standards that have to be adhered to nationally? |
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igorG
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:26 am Post subject: |
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| On AIDS, I've seen the local media raising a hell lot of awareness recently. It was on many local TV channels that AIDS or HIV patients should not be discriminated against anywhere and that the central government has lifted a ban for infected foreigners intending to come to mainland China. Intriguing that many foreigners have to go through the blood testing and that the current regulations seem to direct foreigners living/working on mainland to leave for their homelands (to test) and apply for their new work permits in China. I can't imagine the agony of one that has never been HIV positive but after living/working on mainland and after returning home for testing, he/she finds the horrifying discovery. |
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