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Which would you choose: Excellent school, or good salary?
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If you had a choice of working at an excellent school, or a mediocre school with a good salary, which would you choose?
1) Excellent school, low salary
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 57%  [ 11 ]
2) Mediocre school, good salary
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Total Votes : 19

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Kurochan



Joined: 01 Mar 2003
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Location: China

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:26 am    Post subject: Which would you choose: Excellent school, or good salary? Reply with quote

OK, I got an offer from one of the best universities in China. I was SOOOO excited! But then they got back to me saying although my salary was going to be 7,500 a month, I'd only actually RECEIVE 4,500! If I lived in the "free" campus housing, they would deduct 3,000 RMB from my salary!

That's less that I got at my school three years ago!

I have another option, where they offered me 6,500 a month, with 6,200 after-tax pay, and free housing. But it's in a smaller city (Nanning), and a school that isn't as well-known (I read it's ranked like 97th, while the Shanghai school is 25th, and my current school is 105th).

Famous school, low pay, or less good school, higher pay? Which would you choose? I know I personally fret a lot about money, and if I werent' putting any away it would REALLY bother me. Another thing is that I am really interested in Chinese minority culture. But, I would love to live in Shanghai and meet a bigger variety of people. I need a better social life.

Pardon me while I go and either cry or throw up! Crying or Very sad
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august03



Joined: 13 Oct 2003
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Location: Jiangsu, China

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you want to work for a "famous" school? I've never heard of it. What do you mean by this? Is it that the only reason the school is good is because it's famous or because it has great working conditions and the students are eager to learn? Do you know anything about the school in Nanning other than it�s ranking?

I would rate a school on its management of FTs, its working conditions and requirements, its students eagerness to learn and participate, its location, its pay and extras and probably last of all whether people knew of it or not. I don�t mean to be harsh but I�m a little confused by how you judge a school and for what purpose. Confused
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ls650



Joined: 10 May 2003
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Location: British Columbia

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as I was earning enough salary to live comfortably I'd much rather work for an "excellent school".
I can be happy teaching at an excellent school, but I would become miserable pretty quickly at a mediocre school.
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gugelhupf



Joined: 24 Jan 2004
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Location: Jabotabek

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No question about it. I'd go for the excellent school with lower salary - *BUT* I'd want to be absolutely sure in my mind that this was an "excellent" school and that the other was truly "mediochre".
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shmooj



Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Location: Seoul, ROK

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gugelhupf wrote:
"mediochre".


What kind of colour is that? Shocked

Money isn't everything and, if, like me, you are in this thing for the long haul, job prospects and being able to open doors to future positions take priority. I'd go with the school. In fact, that is what I have just done in moving to Korea.
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yaramaz



Joined: 05 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mediochre is partway between burnt umber and sepia.
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who cares about reputation? Outside of China, no one will have heard of either of these schools. Which is the best job and working conditions? You need to make a priority list and see what is most important to you. A school's reputation is more important if you are a student IMO.
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gugelhupf



Joined: 24 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yaramaz wrote:
Mediochre is partway between burnt umber and sepia.


Couldn't have put it better myself!
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khmerhit



Joined: 31 May 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would take the salary.
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Sara Avalon



Joined: 25 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good school, low pay - I