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[Marksnow]

Hi colleagues,

I am surprised to see an advert requesting native and non native English Language teachers to apply to teach in Oman colleges. Oman previously never wanted to see any colour apart from white skins from the Americas and UK NZ, Aus, S. Afr. Why non natives now, who can tell me? the ad. was posted twice, 28th Dec. 2010 and 3rd jan. 2011. But a third ad on 6th of Jan only invites natives and no more non native. Who can share his thoughts and experiences with us on the developments?

Mark

[Neutrino Girl]

Marksnow, this is the UAE board.

[veiledsentiments]

I have had two jobs in Oman... SQU and a small private university. In both places, there were a significant number of non-native speakers who were obviously not white. In fact at the second, we "white faces" were in the minority and I suspect that SQU is near half and half these days.

In the years since the 80's this has been true at university level. So, I don't think you know much about tertiary education in Oman... not to mention posting to the correct board.

VS

[Marksnow]

VS,

Kindly email me the contact email addresses of the institutions where as a qualified black African I can apply for english language jobs.

You may email them to [email protected]

Mark

[veiledsentiments]

Google up the universities in Oman and apply. SQU (Sultan Qaboos University) already employs some African professors and EFL teachers.

VS

[desertdawg]

From somebody (desertdawg) who has allegedly more widespread and recent experience than the last poster(who didn't even know what a non NEST was) apply away, opportunities abound. Do not believe the negative hype! Carpe diem!

[veiledsentiments]

[johnslat]

Dear veiledsentiments,

If "EFL NEST teacher" is googled, there are more hits. A sample:

"NNEST-IS/EFL-IS Intersection 2010
Teaching English Around the World: Issues and Measures

The presenters will discuss various issues concerning the teaching of English across the globe by re-examining the current English teaching practices in EFL contexts, NNEST and NEST teacher-training programs, adaptation to local cultures, world Englishes, and diversity in the workplace. Measures in redefining the role of TESOL will be provided.
Preparing NESs for EFL Teaching
By Aya Matsuda (NNEST-IS)
The first presenter provides an overview of how NESTs are being prepared to teach English in EFL contexts. Based on a large-scale survey of TESOL/TEFL certificate and degree programs in North America, different types of teacher preparation programs for NESTs interested in teaching abroad will be provided. In addition, some shared trends and variations among those programs will be explored."

http://tesolefl.wordpress.com/2010/04/08/nnest-isefl-is-intersection-2010/


Regards,
John

[veiledsentiments]

I put in non NEST... got 3 sites... put in NEST non NEST... same three sites. I never said that it didn't exist... just that is appears to be rare as yet.

Figured that I shouldn't have to spend lots of time typing in numerous variations that hadn't been mentioned here. It was obvious that the commonly used term was NS and NNS which even if I went up to page 37... was still nearly all sites about EFL/ESL. (with just a Nova Scotia site here and there)

I've always found this profession to be foolish enough to think changing the initials will make us sound more important. I have noticed that they are moving from the ESL/EFL formation too. I'm sure that it will have massive effect on the newer teachers' abilities in the classroom...

VS

[helenl]

HEY VS! a great many bald eagles have been transplanted from Eastern Canada to the North Eastern US in order to repopulate the wild population. Also interesting is the fact of the DDT impact on Eagle populations and who discovered it (I'm a banker in a former life)

"Eagles were just beginning to recover from the first decline, perhaps in part thanks to the U.S. Bald Eagle Act of 1940 that prohibited the killing of Bald Eagles in the lower 48 states, when the number of eagles in both Canada and the United States declined again. The new threat was noticed first in the late 1940s by Charles Broley, a Canadian banker retired to Florida. He guessed, correctly, that the pesticide DDT, which had been sprayed along the gulf coast to control salt marsh mosquitoes, caused the drop in the number of eaglets hatched each year. " http://www.hww.ca/hww2.asp?cid=7&id=27 by way of Cornell

Are Canadians the original NESTers? BTW Nova Scotia is AKA NS but NS also stands for non-smoking NEST hmm could it mean North Eastern ... ...? or New England something something?

As pointed out, acronyms can be used for many words and contexts and government whether educational, political, military, municipal, state, national all seem to grow their own.

Sorry I've hijacked this thread merely on the discussion of NEST (or variations thereof) but I like the birdies

[mimi_intheworld]

So...what does NEST acronym for? Wait, I'll check for myself.

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.....Near East School of Theology? Network of English Speaking Therapists? I came up with several lists but nothing on the list seemed relevant. Therefore I'll ask again (completely completely derailing the thread) - what does NEST/nonNEST mean?

[desertdawg]

native English speaking teacher in this context I hope

[mimi_intheworld]

Thanks.

[freesoul]

TEIL is the future.

[mimi_intheworld]

GAH!!!!! You teachers and your acronymic jargon. (I've always been dreadful with jargon, never remember it.) Okay, I'll bite. TEIL? Is it German?