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Prof.Gringo · Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:23 am Post subject: Another GREAT EFL Job in Mexico!

Hope you are sitting down for this one:

"Informaci�n de la vacante

Docente de Ingles.

Edad: 23 a 55 a�os.

Estado Civil: Indistinto.

Sexo: Indistinto.

Escolaridad: Cualquier Licenciatura o Ingenier�a con Titulo y Cedula

Profesional y cuenten con Teachers Course

Experiencia: M�nimo un 6 Meses como Docente

Actividades: Manejo de grupo, Responsable, Din�mico, Planeaci�n y

Evaluaci�n de Asignaturas y Actividades Extracurriculares referentes a la Asignatura.

Para Laborar: Turno MatutinoSueldo: $50 por hora + Prestaciones.

��CONTRATACI�N INMEDIATA!!!!

Interesados enviar Curriculum v�a Mail en asunto Docente en Ingles XXXXX (EDIT) y Adjuntar

Informaci�n Adicional
Sueldo: $5,000 a $7,000 mensual
Puesto: Tiempo Completo"

So they want a person with a degree, a TEFL and 6 months exp. for the payrate of $50 pesos an hour...

Enchilada Potosina · Joined: 03 Aug 2010 Posts: 344 Location: Mexico

No trouble hiring someone if this job were in SLP, they pay more than 3 language schools I can think of...

gregd75 · Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:54 am Post subject:

No need to apply if you don't like the job.

In times of economic crisis and recession I am sure there are people out there happy to have A JOB than NO JOB.

$50 + benefits, lets remember. ALSO lets put this into perspective- the minimum wage is $50 A DAY. I'm not saying its great, but its not horrendous.

And now we go around in circles again.....

Prof.Gringo · Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:25 pm Post subject:

BTW, Wal-Mart pays entry-level people with a 9th grade education $3,500 pesos per month PLUS benefits and COSTCO pays $5,000 pesos per month PLUS benefits. Shocked

Sounds like a career move to me.

So, a person with a DEGREE, a TEFL cert, the ability to speak English well enough to teach it as well as exp. can get $50 an hour.

Again, just more proof that EFL is a poor career, at least in Mexico.

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TeresaLopez · Joined: 18 Apr 2010 Posts: 601 Location: Mexico City

But this is what teachers earn in Mexico. I agree that it is not a good wage, but I suspect it is targeted at Mexicans and not foreigners since they are asking for a Cedula, something few non-Mexicans bother to get.
Why do you think teachers all over Mexico protest all the time? It isn�t just ESL, it is teaching in general, which is really not valued much of anywhere in the world, in terms of salary. And, that is a starting wage, which is always quoted as if that is what one will be earning forever. Just to put things in perspective, as a US certified teacher with a degree in Education, I made the princely sum of $12,500 yearly, which worked out to be about THREE DOLLARS an hour US. Not much difference in this ad, and not bad wages for Mexico, for a starting job. And, the benefits package, which often includes a couple thousand pesos in vales, IMSS; Aguinaldo, etc. makes a big difference as well, something that never seems to get mentioned in your posts. If you want to show the complete picture shouldn�t you look at the whole package, and not just the salary?

Prof.Gringo · Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:18 pm Post subject:

TeresaLopez · Joined: 18 Apr 2010 Posts: 601 Location: Mexico City

Right, but the point is NO teachers make really good money in Mexico, not just ESL teachers. It just seems pointless to lament over and over the poor wages. And, just for the record, Catholic schools in Milwaukee are currently paying the wonderful starting salary of $21,000 per year, which taking into consideration the cost of living there vs here, is actually worse. in terms of buying power.

Guy Courchesne · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City

I don't think it's very easy to compare factory workers to teachers within a country, let alone to a communist one?

Prof.Gringo · Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:40 pm Post subject:

Prof.Gringo · Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:51 pm Post subject:

Isla Guapa · Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:05 pm Post subject:

TeresaLopez · Joined: 18 Apr 2010 Posts: 601 Location: Mexico City

[quote="Isla Guapa"]
Where do you get this stuff from? If English isn't seen as important here, then why are there so many schools teaching English? Why is it easy for me to find students whenever I need to fill my teaching schedule?

Anti-American attitudes? It could be that your anti-Mexican (or should that be anti-Mexico?) attitude may have something to do with the attitudes you seem to run into wherever you go in this city. MOD EDIT

At the risk of being accused of �gloating�again, I just turned away four classes this week, one of which paid several hundred pesos per hour, because I don�t have time to add more classes to my schedule. Add to that the fact that I have several students who have been with me more than a year and a half, and one close to two years, I just don�t see the lack of interest.

As for the anti-Ameican attitude, I don�t see that either. I think some things, just become self-fulfilling profecies, in grand part people get what they give. Where, exactly, is this anti-American attitude �ll over the city�? We must be living in different cities, I just don�t see it. And even if it were true, in grand part, it would be well-deserved. My husband has a business in a touristy area of the city and you wouldn�t believe the crap Americans feel free to say because the think no one understands English. And even so, they are treated with courtesy - far more courtesy than they deserve.