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TeresaLopez
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| the peanut gallery wrote: |
Sounds rough Teresa. A friend of mine in Canada pays about 500 a month for his oil heater when they get hit with a cold snap!
Does anyone know if Mexico has a "food stamp" type program for low earning teachers here? |
There are various programs you can apply for if you are a citizen, maybe if you are an immigrant as well. I know that non-citizens with immigrant status can get Seguro Popular, a medical uinsurance program for people who don�t have it through their job. You can also get food packages through the various political parties, as well as in your Delegacion. Many churches also have food banks, and there and Community �Soup Kitchens�that serve a pretty decent lunch for 10 pesos, though no one is turned away for lack of money. There are really a lot of programs in Mexico Ciy, but I think a lot of people don�t know about them because they are sometimes difficult to ferret out. |
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TeresaLopez
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Na, Teresa loves me and besides, I'm just pointing out a simple fact...there's no way she can still be certified if the original certificate is over seven or ten years old. Plus she would now be required to get a Masters within three years of being certified or she would lose it. Well, that seems to be the case in most states anyway. |
Yes, you are my favorite Professor! ::::insert sarcasm::::And for the record, yes, there is a way I can still be certified, and am, not in Wisconin, but in Illinios. You do NOT have to have a Masters within 3 years of initial certification, only a certain number of hours of graduate credits. For a Professor, you are really lacking in research skills. |
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Guy Courchesne
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| the peanut gallery wrote: |
Sounds rough Teresa. A friend of mine in Canada pays about 500 a month for his oil heater when they get hit with a cold snap!
Does anyone know if Mexico has a "food stamp" type program for low earning teachers here? |
There are various programs you can apply for if you are a citizen, maybe if you are an immigrant as well. I know that non-citizens with immigrant status can get Seguro Popular, a medical uinsurance program for people who don�t have it through their job. You can also get food packages through the various political parties, as well as in your Delegacion. Many churches also have food banks, and there and Community �Soup Kitchens�that serve a pretty decent lunch for 10 pesos, though no one is turned away for lack of money. There are really a lot of programs in Mexico Ciy, but I think a lot of people don�t know about them because they are sometimes difficult to ferret out. |
To add to your post, AMLO put in place a payment system to elderly DF residents that have no income...something like 600 pesos per month. Not sure how to qualify for it. Delegaciones also have programs including economy incentives where street stall permits are reserved for the elderly and microcredit offered. You're right in that you do have to look hard to find these programs. |
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Samantha
Joined: 25 Oct 2003
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Location: Mexican Riviera
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Don't forget D.I.F. They operate a Food Bank and other programs in my city. I imagine it's quite similar across the country.
If a foreign teacher is working legally and starving then I guess it would be okay to line up with the truly poor people who really do not have other options. That would be pretty sad. However, if you are in the country on a tourist visa and Immigration got wind of you lined up at the food bank, you would swiftly be instructed to leave Mexico.
http://www.dif.gob.mx/dif-digital/comunicacion%20social/VersionIngles/inicio.html
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Phil_K
Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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Location: A World of my Own
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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To get back on track...
I doubt that I'd pay more than the $50 + prestaciones for someone with only 6 months experience - in fact, I wouldn't employ someone with so little experience!
I was lucky enough to get $110 + prestaciones in my first job in Mexico with NO experience or qualifications, I guess I didn't really deserve it! If someone is eager enough to succeed in a particular profession and is willing to strive to learn and become better, then this job (the one the OP posted) seems OK. If you are already there, then why bother wasting time even thinking about this kind of job?
Oh, and another thing...
Very high on the list of attributes I'd look for is attitude.... (No names, no pack drill, but I think many of my fellow posters can read between the lines on that one!) |
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Phil_K
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| To add to your post, AMLO put in place a payment system to elderly DF residents that have no income...something like 600 pesos per month. Not sure how to qualify for it. |
Be over 70 �y ya! ($700pm, by the way)
Great cynical voter chaser, that one! My aunt-in-law (!) said she was going to vote for AMLO in the last presidential election and when asked why on earth why, said "Because he gives me $700pm!". Nuff said. |
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TeresaLopez
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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To add to your post, AMLO put in place a payment system to elderly DF residents that have no income...something like 600 pesos per month. Not sure how to qualify for it. Delegaciones also have programs including economy incentives where street stall permits are reserved for the elderly and microcredit offered. You're right in that you do have to look hard to find these programs. |
Right, and they also get vales for food. There are also programs that will paint your house for free, but the colors will be those of whatever political party does the work, so choose wisely! There is also a program similar to WIC in the US for single mothers with kids under 5, as well as a program similar to what Guy mentioned for the elderly, except it�s for people who are disabled. You can get free vacinations, free PAP smears and free Mamograms as well, and they are available to anyone who lives in Mexico, citizen, immigrant, FM2 FM3, even tourists, I saw a groups of 4 or 5 Scandinavians of some kind getting flu shots in the Metro last year and the nurse didn�t even bat an eye. |
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TeresaLopez
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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I doubt that I'd pay more than the $50 + prestaciones for someone with only 6 months experience - in fact, I wouldn't employ someone with so little experience!
I was lucky enough to get $110 + prestaciones in my first job in Mexico with NO experience or qualifications, I guess I didn't really deserve it! If someone is eager enough to succeed in a particular profession and is willing to strive to learn and become better, then this job (the one the OP posted) seems OK. If you are already there, then why bother wasting time even thinking about this kind of job?
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I�m with you, I don�t think that job sounds that bad for a first job, which teally should be more about getting better at what you do than pay in my opinion. The institute I work for pays $150 per hour to start, provides all materials, including a CD player, a MEXTESOL membership, paid workshops for teachers, and classes are in 2 hour blocks. Often a teacher will work a 4 hour block in one location, just this has still been called a �crappy job� in this forum, so I wonder exactly what it would take to be a good job? Good teachers with us get a raise after 3 months or so as well. |
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TeresaLopez
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Great cynical voter chaser, that one! My aunt-in-law (!) said she was going to vote for AMLO in the last presidential election and when asked why on earth why, said "Because he gives me $700pm!". Nuff said. |
Yeah, I hear ya. I had a student who ran for office at the Delgacion level. He was a good guy, a decent person and really interested in serving. He didn�t win because he wanted to win based on his merits and not on giving out dispensas or market bags, or whatever. He did give out pens, but most people didn�t think that was enough. |
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Prof.Gringo
Joined: 07 Nov 2006
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Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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| Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| TeresaLopez wrote: |
| Guy Courchesne wrote: |
To add to your post, AMLO put in place a payment system to elderly DF residents that have no income...something like 600 pesos per month. Not sure how to qualify for it. Delegaciones also have programs including economy incentives where street stall permits are reserved for the elderly and microcredit offered. You're right in that you do have to look hard to find these programs. |
Right, and they also get vales for food. There are also programs that will paint your house for free, but the colors will be those of whatever political party does the work, so choose wisely! There is also a program similar to WIC in the US for single mothers with kids under 5, as well as a program similar to what Guy mentioned for the elderly, except it�s for people who are disabled. You can get free vacinations, free PAP smears and free Mamograms as well, and they are available to anyone who lives in Mexico, citizen, immigrant, FM2 FM3, even tourists, I saw a groups of 4 or 5 Scandinavians of some kind getting flu shots in the Metro last year and the nurse didn�t even bat an eye. |
I would get my house painted in the colors of Convegencia, hands-down the best colors/logo in Mexico.
http://www.convergencia.org.mx/
Where can I get my free vaccines? |
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Prof.Gringo
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| Samantha wrote: |
Don't forget D.I.F. They operate a Food Bank and other programs in my city. I imagine it's quite similar across the country.
If a foreign teacher is working legally and starving then I guess it would be okay to line up with the truly poor people who really do not have other options. That would be pretty sad. However, if you are in the country on a tourist visa and Immigration got wind of you lined up at the food bank, you would swiftly be instructed to leave Mexico.
http://www.dif.gob.mx/dif-digital/comunicacion%20social/VersionIngles/inicio.html |
There was a Japanese guy living in the DF airport some time ago. He lived on hand outs and became a minor celeb. He wasn't deported.
I highly doubt that INM would deport a broke tourist, esp. one from "select" countries. |
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TeresaLopez
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[quote="Prof.Gringo"]
Where can I get my free vaccines?[/quote
In November and December they were giving them in many Metro stations, but if you look for the Centro de Salud in your neighborhood, they are free there. For women, there is a Mamogram Mobil, it was in front of the SAT office behind the Alameda for about a week last month, though you can also get one at the Centro de Salud, as well as a Pap smear, but sometimes the wait is long, but the price is right. |
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Samantha
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There was a Japanese guy living in the DF airport some time ago. He lived on hand outs and became a minor celeb. He wasn't deported.
I highly doubt that INM would deport a broke tourist, esp. one from "select" countries. |
Again, you are referring to Mexico City, where INAM may have way more to do than in some other areas. That's probably why so many teachers in DF get by with working on tourist visas without getting bothered much. In smaller centers, INM employees get to know people, and their activities. They even spend time here checking to see that new FM3 holders actually live where they say they do. Also, a guy from Hacienda often accompanies an INM agent to the address, to check if the house is being rented for income. Kind of kills two birds with one stone.
I had heard about the story to which you refer. Indeed, what an odd and unique situation that was. Maybe he was writing a book. The guy wasn't soliciting money, so it wasn't considered working illegally. And, he had a return ticket to Japan. The Mexican officials stated they couldn't do anything with him until his tourist visa expired. The "broke tourists" I have seen here who have gotten the boot, had overstayed their tourist visas with no means to get home, and were openly soliciting money, washing windshields at stoplights, or scamming good hearted foreigners by saying their baby needed medical care. Sad state of affairs. |
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Prof.Gringo
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There was a Japanese guy living in the DF airport some time ago. He lived on hand outs and became a minor celeb. He wasn't deported.
I highly doubt that INM would deport a broke tourist, esp. one from "select" countries. |
Again, you are referring to Mexico City, where INAM may have way more to do than in some other areas. That's probably why so many teachers in DF get by with working on tourist visas without getting bothered much. In smaller centers, INM employees get to know people, and their activities. They even spend time here checking to see that new FM3 holders actually live where they say they do. Also, a guy from Hacienda often accompanies an INM agent to the address, to check if the house is being rented for income. Kind of kills two birds with one stone.
I had heard about the story to which you refer. Indeed, what an odd and unique situation that was. Maybe he was writing a book. The guy wasn't soliciting money, so it wasn't considered working illegally. And, he had a return ticket to Japan. The Mexican officials stated they couldn't do anything with him until his tourist visa expired. The "broke tourists" I have seen here who have gotten the boot, had overstayed their tourist visas with no means to get home, and were openly soliciting money, washing windshields at stoplights, or scamming good hearted foreigners by saying their baby needed medical care. Sad state of affairs. |
There was an American that was wanted for years and years in Mexico City for scamming many, perhaps hundreds or more victims, both Mexicans and foreigners.
I wonder if anybody else remembers that case? |
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