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prsprsbks



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:43 am    Post subject: Advice, anyone? Reply with quote

I will turn 30 soon. I have 3 years of experience in one of the large English chains here in Korea teaching kindergarten through middle, and another 1.5 years teaching at a public middle school in Seoul. I have a bachelor's degree, but no CELTA certificate, no teaching certificate.

I desperately want to get out of Korea, but fear that I must stay another year for the money. I've been considering taking a big cut in potential savings just to go to Japan MOD EDIT. But in addition to taking a loss in savings, my employment options are considerably diminished.I'

Don't want to do the JET programme, because I want control of where I live and work. And having spent the last year and a half as the only foreigner on a staff full of xenophobes, I want a work be in a work environment where there is at least ONE other native English speaker.

I've seen some ads for Japanese preschool jobs paying 300,000 yen. But I'm not sure I can handle the babysitting. Teaching six year olds for two years was stressful, but mostly enjoyable. Teaching four year olds the year after that was enjoyable, but mostly stressful. Should I just bite the bullet and apply for preschools?

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Japan, on the other hand, having visited twice, seems a MUCH more pleasant place to live. Even if the cost of living is twice as high.

So ... I'm open to other ideas, outside of Korea or Japan. Thailand is nice, but not sure I want to live there for an entire year ... and not sure if I'd be able to save much at all to take back to the States.

Thanks for reading! Any suggestions?
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: Advice, anyone? Reply with quote

MOD EDIT Just what do you think you are qualified to do at this point? There are conversation schools and ALT operations (JET programme vs. dispatch agencies) here. Spend a year doing either, and hustle a bit to network your next options, and you might be able to land PT uni/junior college work or other stuff. Depends on you.

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Don't want to do the JET programme, because I want control of where I live and work.
Ok, let's stop here. Do you realize how flooded Japan is with teachers and wannabes right now? You are not going to have that much control over your choice of locations here.

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And having spent the last year and a half as the only foreigner on a staff full of xenophobes, I want a work be in a work environment where there is at least ONE other native English speaker.
Again, no guarantees.

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I've seen some ads for Japanese preschool jobs paying 300,000 yen. But I'm not sure I can handle the babysitting.
Then don't apply.

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I definitely need to save money.
We all do. How much do you feel you need to tuck away in the bank every month? How much are you paying off in loans per month?

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Japan, on the other hand, having visited twice, seems a MUCH more pleasant place to live. Even if the cost of living is twice as high.
Is it really? Depends on where in Japan & Korea, I would think, as well as your lifestyle. Living in Japan is not as expensive as you might think. MOD EDIT
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Sadebugo



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Advice, anyone? Reply with quote

prsprsbks wrote:
I will turn 30 soon. I have 3 years of experience in one of the large English chains here in Korea teaching kindergarten through middle, and another 1.5 years teaching at a public middle school in Seoul. I have a bachelor's degree, but no CELTA certificate, no teaching certificate.

I desperately want to get out of Korea, but fear that I must stay another year for the money. I've been considering taking a big cut in potential savings just to go to Japan and escape the surreal nightmare that is my daily life in Korea. But in addition to taking a loss in savings, my employment options are considerably diminished.I'

Don't want to do the JET programme, because I want control of where I live and work. And having spent the last year and a half as the only foreigner on a staff full of xenophobes, I want a work be in a work environment where there is at least ONE other native English speaker.

I've seen some ads for Japanese preschool jobs paying 300,000 yen. But I'm not sure I can handle the babysitting. Teaching six year olds for two years was stressful, but mostly enjoyable. Teaching four year olds the year after that was enjoyable, but mostly stressful. Should I just bite the bullet and apply for preschools?

I definitely need to save money. So, from a practical standpoint, I should stay in Korea. But it has gotten to the point where I don't even want to walk down the street to get something to eat. I simply can't enjoy being around 99% of Koreans socially. The sights, sounds, and smells of the city really turn me off.

Japan, on the other hand, having visited twice, seems a MUCH more pleasant place to live. Even if the cost of living is twice as high.

So ... I'm open to other ideas, outside of Korea or Japan. Thailand is nice, but not sure I want to live there for an entire year ... and not sure if I'd be able to save much at all to take back to the States.

Thanks for reading! Any suggestions?


I have worked in both Korea/Japan and can confirm your belief that the lifestyle is much better in the latter. I know that's subjective but it was clear to me. Anyway, since the hiring environment in Japan doesn't seem to be so welcoming at the moment, you might want to consider China. The entry level pay isn't great but is improving. Also, there seem to be many more opportunities there compared to the other two countries. I've never worked there but rely on information from this board for my opinion. You may want to contact those who are on the ground now for details.

Sadebugo
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Japanese market is flooded. YOur experience in Korea will count for nothing, as it does in many places: work outside the country where you want to teach may not always count.

Do you have an MA? If you do, head for the Middle East. Korea and the Middle East have money. China, possibily, if you do IELTS on the side.

Sigh, I wish someone would pay my rent Sad

I prefer China over Korea for the langauge and the people, however, MOD EDIT. That being said, my Chinese is still MUCh better than my KOrean. Money is better here though and I can see raising kids here.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the International Board. Comments and threads focusing on living and teaching in Korea will be deleted. Korea focused comments must be posted on the Korean Job Discussion Forums per the locked Announcement found at the top of this forum:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=64186
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