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International School Pre-Reqs - Advice Please!
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BocaNY wrote:
Can you get a job at an international school if you have a teaching cert but no experience? I want to get certified but I don't want to spend all the that in the US.

Does the experience have to be in public schools or does private school work too? I know that to work in private schools you don't need a teaching cert.


It will depend on who is doing the hiring and by private school do you mean days k-12 or do you mean language academy?

IF you get your 2 years in as a teacher in a private school (days, full curriculum, etc) then probably. If you mean a language school then probably not.

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BocaNY



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks tttompatz. I was referring to like catholic schools & prep schools. But would they take teaching at a language academy? It would be interesting to know.
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bdbarnett1



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are plenty of schools that will hire with no experience. May not be a top notch institution, but you'll be able to get started.

Try interamericano.edu.gt
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BocaNY



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bdbarnett1 wrote:
There are plenty of schools that will hire with no experience. May not be a top notch institution, but you'll be able to get started.

Try interamericano.edu.gt




Even with a degree in Photography? I wouldn't mind teaching science but my degree is not in it. Seems to be my problem even for grad school. Sad
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bdbarnett1



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just depends what you're certified in. What is that?
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BocaNY



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bdbarnett1 wrote:
Just depends what you're certified in. What is that?


I want to get certified in ESL or Sci but it's hard to get certified in NY if you don't have a degree in the subject area. Even to get into a master's program in a city university is hard due to that fact. I am about ready to give up.
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Trebek



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boca: If you have a degree in photo you can get certified as a Fine Arts teacher. Many of the international schools are looking for Art teachers. Its still going to be difficult getting hired without the two years experience .
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BocaNY



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trebek wrote:
Boca: If you have a degree in photo you can get certified as a Fine Arts teacher. Many of the international schools are looking for Art teachers. Its still going to be difficult getting hired without the two years experience .


Thanks Trebek never thought about teaching that. I will certainly look into it.
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fladude



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way, NY requires 30 credit hours in a subject to be qualified, and not a degree. The difference may not sound huge, but it is important. You could go back and take 10 classes in a subject to become qualified. Most graduate schools will also let you slide with 15 to 18 credit hours in the subject area. Meaning you could take 5 or 6 classes in the subject and then apply to grad school to get a Masters in it (which would certainly make you highly qualified in NY and anywhere else in America). Although you still have to become certified to teach the program. I don't know if NY has alternative certification or not. I just found out about NY's requirements a couple years ago when I was looking around for jobs outside of Florida. NY would have accepted my Social Studies qualification but I had to take some classes if I wanted to be certified to teach English there.

You could probably take 6 or 7 science classes and then get into a grad school for science (assuming you took the normal 100 and 200 level sciences classes already that most people have to take in college). for example, take 6 classes in biology and then apply for grad school in biology. Many schools will let you do that. Its not like having a full degree grants you some magic authority in a subject. You just have to have the requisite number of classes.
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BocaNY



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fladude: I know all that. I actually have about 15+ credits in biology from my undergrad. I have gone to the city grad schools and they won't take me unless I have a degree in liberal arts/30 credits in a core subject. They even told me to go back and get a 2nd BA. Even with the private universities I have a slim chance. I have applied for one of the alt programs. Won't find out until next month if I got in.

It's just all a little disheartening and all. The fact that my gpa isn't a 3.0 doesn't help.
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