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flyingscotsman
Joined: 24 Mar 2010
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Location: Suzhou, China
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 Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:49 am Post subject: Who takes these jobs??? |
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This came in my mailbox. They are offering 3,000 rmb a month! Does someone actually accept these jobs at that salary level?
And it specifies working on an f visa!
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SALARY AND ACCOMMODATION: �Party A� shall secure a proper Teaching Job for �Party B� in a State/Public School with a payment at ￥3000RMB per calendar month (the actual amount is to be determined by the Host School and the Teacher based on the Teacher�s Credentials), free of tax, on the basis of finishing maximum 22 periods (40-45 minutes each) on weekly basis. �Party B� shall enjoy an end-contract bonus at ￥3000RMB,st till end of Dec. 2011). Party �B� enjoys paid national holidays prescribed by the country, same as Chinese colleagues at the same school. During the Tenure of his/her Employment �Party B� will enjoy free accommodation, including property deposit, etc. but will pay bills of water, electricity and gas and other particular fees occurred whilst �Party B� is living inside the residence. �Party B� will pay for his or her own international/domestic flight expenses. which is regarded as international flight stipend, and will be paid at end of each semester (note: there are two semesters in Chinese schools � Spring Semester from mid-Feb. till early July 2011, Autumn Semester from Sept 1
VISA: The Host School and/or Party �A� will arrange for a �Business Visa (F Visa)� to be issued to �Party B,� at no cost to �Party B.� except that fees occurred in �Party B�s� home country are at the expense of �Party B.� |
They must be a pretty powerful organization to have the ability to cancel a Chinese government issued F VISA.
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Management and Placement Fee: �Party A� will charge related management and placement fees from the host schools directly. �Party B�� will NOT pay management or placement/service fee.
TENURE: �Party B� will be subject to all of the terms and conditions of the Contract between the Host School and him/herself as well as the terms and conditions of this Agreement. If �Party B� terminates his/her employment with the Host School before finishing this contract, Party B�s Business visa will be canceled immediately. |
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flyingscotsman
Joined: 24 Mar 2010
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Location: Suzhou, China
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You do NOT have to have a Bachelor�s Degree.
You must be native English speakers from The USA, UK, Canada, New Zealand, Australia or South Africa.
These Positions provide a Business �F� Visa. |
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flyingscotsman
Joined: 24 Mar 2010
Posts: 339
Location: Suzhou, China
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:53 am Post subject: |
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Dear Teacher:
We have an immediate need for 37 Teachers in the Public School Systems in China for a One Semester Appointment (might be extended into one year Contract), starting on Feb. 21, 2011 then finishes around early July, 2011.
School name
MOD EDIT - SCHOOL NAMES HAVE BEEN DELETED
Gender
Nationality
Age
Both
UK. /U.S.
30 to 35
female
UK./U.S.
25 to 35
Both
UK/U.S.
25 to 35
Both
UK/U.S.
30 to 40
Both
UK/U.S.
25 to 35
Female
UK/U.S.
25 to 30
Both
UK/U.S.
25 to 40
school name
Number of Teachers needed
school type
gender
3
High school
female
2
High school
female/or male
7
middle school
both
2
kids
couple
1
middle school
both
1
middle school
both
1
middle school
both
1
middle school
both
1
both
1
High school
both
1
High school
both
1
High school
both
1
High school
both
1
High school
both
1
High school
both
1
High school
both
B
1
High school
both
1
university
both
2
kids
both
We hope you can stay with us for at least one academic semester.
You do NOT have to have a Bachelor�s Degree.
You must be native English speakers from The USA, UK, Canada, New Zealand, Australia or South Africa.
These Positions provide a Business �F� Visa.
Your Monthly Salary is 3,000 RMB based on your credentials. We will grant end-contract bonus at 3000 RMB which may normally regarded as flight stipend.
Room and Board are provided.
Your Contract is attached. Please review and let me know if you have any questions or need any additional information.
If you are interested, please FILL in blanks then email me immediately, and we will process your application. The new semester starts around mid-Feb. 2011.
When returning your application, please also include copy of your Resume, Photo, and scanned copy of your Passport.
Thanks,
MOD EDIT
MOD EDIT hereinafter referred to as "Party A", and Mr./ Mrs. /Ms _______________________________, referred to as �Party B.� City___________________, State/Region __________________, Country __________. Phone Number ____________________,
Email Address____________________, Passport Country of Origin and Number ________________, Citizenship _____________, hereinafter referred to as "Party B", upon mutual consent regarding the following terms and conditions:
MUTUAL INTEREST: Whereas MOD EDIT is in the business of training, recruiting, and placing foreign teachers in teaching positions at Chinese Schools and Universities, and,
Whereas MOD EDIT has business and management relationships with various Schools, School Programs, and University Programs in China, and,
Whereas �Party B� is a Teacher and is desirous of teaching in China, both Parties hereby agree as follows:
INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR: �Party B� is an independent Contractor. This Agreement shall not render �Party B� as an employee, partner, or joint venture with �Party A� for any purpose. �Party A� shall not be responsible for withholding taxes with respect to �Party B.� �Party B� shall have no claim against �Party A� hereunder or otherwise for vacation pay, sick leave, retirement benefits, social security, worker's compensation, health or disability benefits, unemployment insurance benefits, or employee benefits of any kind.
THE TEACHING EMPLOYMENT: The Teacher (Party �B�) will be employed by the Host School for a one academic year (up to two years) period subject to the Agreement between the Host School and the Teacher and further subject to the Rules and Regulations of the School�s Employment Agreement. Any modification to the Agreement between The Host School and The Teacher will not affect this Agreement.
SALARY AND ACCOMMODATION: �Party A� shall secure a proper Teaching Job for �Party B� in a State/Public School with a payment at ￥3000RMB per calendar month (the actual amount is to be determined by the Host School and the Teacher based on the Teacher�s Credentials), free of tax, on the basis of finishing maximum 22 periods (40-45 minutes each) on weekly basis. �Party B� shall enjoy an end-contract bonus at ￥3000RMB,st till end of Dec. 2011). Party �B� enjoys paid national holidays prescribed by the country, same as Chinese colleagues at the same school. During the Tenure of his/her Employment �Party B� will enjoy free accommodation, including property deposit, etc. but will pay bills of water, electricity and gas and other particular fees occurred whilst �Party B� is living inside the residence. �Party B� will pay for his or her own international/domestic flight expenses. which is regarded as international flight stipend, and will be paid at end of each semester (note: there are two semesters in Chinese schools � Spring Semester from mid-Feb. till early July 2011, Autumn Semester from Sept 1
VISA: The Host School and/or Party �A� will arrange for a �Business Visa (F Visa)� to be issued to �Party B,� at no cost to �Party B.� except that fees occurred in �Party B�s� home country are at the expense of �Party B.�
DUTIES: �Party B� will comply with all of the rules and regulations of the Host School/Employer and at all times represent him/herself in a professional teaching and personal manner at the Host School introduced by �Party A.�
Management and Placement Fee: �Party A� will charge related management and placement fees from the host schools directly. �Party B�� will NOT pay management or placement/service fee.
TENURE: �Party B� will be subject to all of the terms and conditions of the Contract between the Host School and him/herself as well as the terms and conditions of this Agreement. If �Party B� terminates his/her employment with the Host School before finishing this contract, Party B�s Business visa will be canceled immediately.
ARBITRATION/NEGOTIATION: All other terms and conditions not specified herein (any disputes and claims arising in connection with the execution thereof) shall be settled by mutual negotiation. This Agreement is governed by and construed in accordance with the relevant laws in force in the People�s Republic of China.
Witness the following signatures and Seals:
__________________________________ _______________________________________________
MOD EDIT (Name)
__________________________________ _______________________________________________
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7969
Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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Location: Coastal Guangdong
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:56 am Post subject: |
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You do NOT have to have a Bachelor�s Degree.
You must be native English speakers from The USA, UK, Canada, New Zealand, Australia or South Africa. |
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who takes these jobs? my experience tells me: anyone from a country other than the ones listed above. Congo, Cameroon, Belarus etc. |
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TexasHighway
Joined: 03 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:04 am Post subject: |
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| If teachers are willing to come to China as a volunteer and pay an exorbitant placement fee for the "privilege", why wouldn't teachers be willing to come teach for 3,000 rmb a month? |
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Guerciotti
Joined: 13 Feb 2009
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Location: In a sleazy bar killing all the bad guys.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:07 am Post subject: |
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"with a payment at ￥3000RMB per calendar month (the actual amount is to be determined by the Host School and the Teacher based on the Teacher�s Credentials), free of tax, on the basis of finishing maximum 22 periods (40-45 minutes each) on weekly basis."
It's not even 3,000. It gives them room to offer even less! |
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kev7161
Joined: 06 Feb 2004
Posts: 5880
Location: Suzhou, China
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:10 am Post subject: |
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| I got the same email. I wonder if Dave's was hacked . . . or maybe Facebook? |
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clownshow
Joined: 19 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| Maybe the website you participate in sold your email. |
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Kysorb
Joined: 30 Jul 2010
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Location: Beijing
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:05 am Post subject: |
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memememememememememe
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Guerciotti
Joined: 13 Feb 2009
Posts: 842
Location: In a sleazy bar killing all the bad guys.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| clownshow wrote: |
| Maybe the website you participate in sold your email. |
Maybe it was abroadchina.org? Or the 'teacherregistry' - I don't recall the website. I get the same kind of emails. |
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Zero
Joined: 08 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Who takes these jobs? |
Missionaries. |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010
Posts: 4724
Location: China
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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While not untenable, this offer has to be down at the bottom end of the food chain.
The min should be 3500pm.
The teaching hours s/be max 18pw.
There should be travel refund/allowance of RMB10000 for one year and in this case pro rated for the part year.
Rent free accom with most/all utilities on campus.
Access to staff cafetaria
and..
No school split with say 2 hours at one school in the am then an hour bus ride to do 2 hours in the pm at another school.
Given the jobless recovery in the US and yep the missionary group, there will be people interested in these jobs. |
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therock
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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Location: China
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| Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:08 am Post subject: |
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While not untenable, this offer has to be down at the bottom end of the food chain.
The min should be 3500pm.
The teaching hours s/be max 18pw. |
The min should be 5000rmb a month for 14 - 16 classes a week. They even mention a degree is not absolutely necessary. Any native speaker with or without a degree should avoid this offer at all costs. |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010
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Location: China
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| Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:38 am Post subject: |
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What it 'should' be ain't necessarily the same as what it 'is'.
ESL is a market like anything else and employers can staff their operations at RMB3500 to RMB4500 in popular east coast cities. They don't need to pay more with the so-called 'missionary' bottom feeders at say RMB2000 (or nothing with accom) filling some positions and a less than buoyant US economy providing fewer entry level positions for grads. |
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davidjfrancis
Joined: 09 Dec 2010
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Location: Bangongshi
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| Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:23 am Post subject: |
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| Party B gets a lot of prescribed enjoyment from this contract |
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