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Is there anywhere in Latin America with decent pay?
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spanglish



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know the entire range, but at the best university jobs CELTA holders can make about $2000/month USD and DELTA holders would be looking at at $2000-$3000. Cushy schedule (at one of the top universities I know some of the teachers work long hours for only 3 days/week). I don't know about vacation time. The British Council seems to be the best employer in the country.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The British Council seems to be the best employer in the country.


Interesting...the BC is represented here but from what others have said who worked there, it isn't top tier work. Good, but not the best.

Brings me to another question...you mention DELTA. The DELTA doesn't seem to carry much weight in Mexico - but if any Mexico hands know otherwise, feel free to educate me. I'm also hearing that the DELTA is of no use in Canada, the US, and Australia. Not saying it's a bad cred to have but I wonder as to the limitations. In Colombia, is it well recognized, outside of the BC?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

B.C. is definitely top tier in Colombia. I'd go out on a limb to say it's one of the top jobs in the whole region.

DELTA seems to be very recognized, rewarded and respected in Colombia, a good qualification for a private uni.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MotherF wrote:
naturegirl321 wrote:
MotherF, just out of curiosity, are you still able to take your whole family to the US twice a year? That would be great if you could


No, I could never take my whole family to the US because my husband is not allowed in.


What? They won't let your husband in? YOu're married. And have kids and ties to Mexico. Keep trying. My husband got his tourist visa on the fourth try.

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I guess your girlfriend was making pretty good money, but earning every penny.

At TEC she was...the best thing about TEC was the IB training they provided, which opened the door to the ASF, which subsidized her Master's, which provided for...and so forth. The lady made some good career moves and now 5 years in, the income level is better than most US teaching jobs though still lower than most Canadian teaching posts.


INternational schools seem to be the best move for those with QTS.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
MotherF wrote:
naturegirl321 wrote:
MotherF, just out of curiosity, are you still able to take your whole family to the US twice a year? That would be great if you could


No, I could never take my whole family to the US because my husband is not allowed in.


What? They won't let your husband in? YOu're married. And have kids and ties to Mexico. Keep trying. My husband got his tourist visa on the fourth try.



We are not willing to grovel. If they don't want us it's their loss. I only go because my father's health makes it hard for him to come here.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I imagine it's a pain to try to get the visa too...you would need to come up to DF for each attempt, do you not?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes.
First phone a 1 900 number to get an appointment, that costs about hundred pesos right there!
Next go to Mexico City for the appointment, transportation costs of about 600 pesos for the round trip (6 hours each way). Not to mention FOOD.
The cost of the appointment, regardless of whether you are accepted or denied is about 500 pesos.
Plus the cost of photos and documents.
The whole thing costs the same as two weeks of our full time housekeeper-nanny's salary!
Rolling Eyes


Plus geography is against us. We live in a region where Mexicans married to Americans are a dime a dozen--there are three in our family alone! It's almost like the Embassy staff say, Oh you're Mixtecan? Well so long.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We are not willing to grovel. If they don't want us it's their loss. I only go because my father's health makes it hard for him to come here.


Not groveling, but situations change
New job
New house
New investments
More savings
More studies
More ties to Mexico
Different US laws
Travel to other countries, stamps or visas in his passport also help his case

How many times have you changed? Have you thought about getting Mexican citizenship? That might help your husband's chances.

My husband tried in Sept 2001, right after Sept 11, then in April 2002, then Jan 2009 and again in Jan 2009. Costs about $130 each for the 2009 times, he's good for 10 years and hopefully when he tries again it'll be easier since he has Korean residency and lots more stamps in his passport.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I'm concerned it's bad enough that I have to be a citizen of one country--why would I want to be a citizen of two.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As far as I'm concerned it's bad enough that I have to be a citizen of one country--why would I want to be a citizen of two.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
MotherF wrote:
As far as I'm concerned it's bad enough that I have to be a citizen of one country--why would I want to be a citizen of two.


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My opinion is that it's useful to be a citizen of more than one country, so why not go for it! I'm looking forward to becoming a Mexican citizen in a few years. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isla Guapa wrote:
naturegirl321 wrote:
MotherF wrote:
As far as I'm concerned it's bad enough that I have to be a citizen of one country--why would I want to be a citizen of two.


Shocked more opinions


My opinion is that it's useful to be a citizen of more than one country, so why not go for it! I'm looking forward to becoming a Mexican citizen in a few years. Smile


I'm due for the second renewal of my FM-2 in two weeks and, since my wife is Mexican, can begin the application process for Mexican citizenship immediately upon getting my visa renewed. Word to the wise: you only have 6 months from the date of the second renewal of your visa to apply. Come 6 months and you haven't done anything, you'll have to wait for the third renewal of your visa and, again, you have six months. And so on.

I went in to Secretaria de Relaciones Exteriores for some prelimary information on requirements. One thing that really surprised me was the cost: $1,250 pesos. Dirt cheap, if you ask me. My visa costs $2,800.

I, for one, am looking forward to becoming a citizen. Not having to deal with immigration is one less hassle in life. Plus, I'd like to have the same citizenship my kids and wife have.

By the way, I need to begin getting info for my wife's visa. I didn't realize it could be so complicated. She has no property, no job, no real savings. We have 2 kids, one of whom I'm in the process of adopting. I would like for my wife to get a green card at some point, so she can have American citizenship just like I'll have Mexican. Of course, same for my kids. Any advice? I've dealt plenty with Mexican immigration, but US immigration is a whole new ball game to me.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mejms wrote:
By the way, I need to begin getting info for my wife's visa. I didn't realize it could be so complicated. She has no property, no job, no real savings. We have 2 kids, one of whom I'm in the process of adopting. I would like for my wife to get a green card at some point, so she can have American citizenship just like I'll have Mexican. Of course, same for my kids. Any advice? I've dealt plenty with Mexican immigration, but US immigration is a whole new ball game to me.


I hate to be negative, but if you're looking for tourist visas, it's pretty much impossible, BUT, spousal visas, that would work. Aince the look for ties to Mexico for tourist visas, such as
job
property
car
family
being established in Mexico
savings, etc

Check www.visajourney.com for more info on how to get spousal visas.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I admit I do think about getting my citizenship--but like re-applying for a tourist visa for my husband it's not something I can do from where I live and travelling to the cities with small children in tow is not my idea of fun.

mejms, once your adoption is complete you can apply for citizenship for your child, no need for the green card there. The requirments for adopted child differ from those of biological children and I'm not familiar with them as I have not adopted. I assume you are the biological father of the other child? You can proceed with that child's citizenship right away if you want. Its slightly more complicated for fathers than for mothers, as it is easier for mothers to prove the child is theirs. See
http://www.usembassy-mexico.gov/eng/eacs_birth_abroad.html for requirements.

Getting your wife eventual citizenship is a many year adventure. One that will require you to live in the US throughout that time. They don't even give green cards to people who don't show that without a doubt they want to live in the good old US of A. I have a Mexican friend who's green card was revoked for not spending enough time in the US.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
mejms wrote:
By the way, I need to begin getting info for my wife's visa. I didn't realize it could be so complicated. She has no property, no job, no real savings. We have 2 kids, one of whom I'm in the process of adopting. I would like for my wife to get a green card at some point, so she can have American citizenship just like I'll have Mexican. Of course, same for my kids. Any advice? I've dealt plenty with Mexican immigration, but US immigration is a whole new ball game to me.


I hate to be negative, but if you're looking for tourist visas, it's pretty much impossible, BUT, spousal visas, that would work. Aince the look for ties to Mexico for tourist visas, such as
job
property
car
family
being established in Mexico
savings, etc

Check www.visajourney.com for more info on how to get spousal visas.


Not negative, just realistic. After posting, I did a little research and realized that applying for a tourist visa for my wife would not be the way to go. She wouldn't get it. Plus, if we do consider living in the US, the tourist visa would be an unnecessary step in getting a green card.

Thanks, MotherF. I've been in contact with the local consulate and the embassy in Mexico City. I believe that all paperwork can be done through the consulate in San Miguel de Allende (only an hour and a half from where I am), which will make this process considerably easier. There's no consulate or consular agency near you?
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