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Cool Teacher
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| riding my bicycle in the dark without my light on really might be quite dangerous for anyone riding towards me...... |
Oh! You reminded me! 
On two Japanese cyclists crashing their bicycles into each other here's what they won't say...
Anything at all...
Ever seen this happen????  |
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Great Teacher Umikun
Joined: 28 Mar 2004
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Location: Back in Japan
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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From today's personal experience:
Let's see here: Qatar Airways flight 802 stops in Osaka and then goes on to Tokyo. Instead of hauling everyone off the plane at Kansai Airport and making the people going to Narita get off with all their luggage and go through the hassle of security (even though we know they've gone through security a billion times already) and bringing the same plane to a different gate that they have to run like mad to, how about we just have the Narita-bound stay on the plane while the Kansai-bound get off with their stuff and then fly the Narita-bound to their final destination without further hassle? |
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Bread
Joined: 24 May 2009
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Great Teacher Umikun wrote: |
From today's personal experience:
Let's see here: Qatar Airways flight 802 stops in Osaka and then goes on to Tokyo. Instead of hauling everyone off the plane at Kansai Airport and making the people going to Narita get off with all their luggage and go through the hassle of security (even though we know they've gone through security a billion times already) and bringing the same plane to a different gate that they have to run like mad to, how about we just have the Narita-bound stay on the plane while the Kansai-bound get off with their stuff and then fly the Narita-bound to their final destination without further hassle? |
Uh... because you needed to go through immigration, while anybody boarding at Osaka wouldn't have needed to? |
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Great Teacher Umikun
Joined: 28 Mar 2004
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Location: Back in Japan
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Bread wrote: |
| Uh... because you needed to go through immigration, while anybody boarding at Osaka wouldn't have needed to? |
No. I went through immigration and customs at Narita, just like all the other non-Japanese who flew to Narita on that flight. We didn't see one single migra at the Kix Airport. It was just a waste of time. |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009
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Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Great Teacher Umikun wrote: |
| Bread wrote: |
| Uh... because you needed to go through immigration, while anybody boarding at Osaka wouldn't have needed to? |
No. I went through immigration and customs at Narita, just like all the other non-Japanese who flew to Narita on that flight. We didn't see one single migra at the Kix Airport. It was just a waste of time. |
If there were new customers getting on board at Osaka, then any decent airline would want to give the plane a quick clean, air out and will need to restock on food and drink before the new passengers got on board, especially since the last leg of it's journey was a longhaul flight.
They have to disembark the passengers whilst they do this.
I've been on many flights where this has happened. And whilst it might seem an inconvenience to you, you need to appreciate that if you had been a new customer on that internal leg of the flight, you wouldn't appreciate finding sick in the toilet from the last lot of passengers or being told there were no refreshments onboard because the last passengers ate them all... |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 2142
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| Great Teacher Umikun wrote: |
From today's personal experience:
Let's see here: Qatar Airways flight 802 stops in Osaka and then goes on to Tokyo. Instead of hauling everyone off the plane at Kansai Airport and making the people going to Narita get off with all their luggage and go through the hassle of security (even though we know they've gone through security a billion times already) and bringing the same plane to a different gate that they have to run like mad to, how about we just have the Narita-bound stay on the plane while the Kansai-bound get off with their stuff and then fly the Narita-bound to their final destination without further hassle? |
As seklarwia says, this is a common thing for airlines to do when they fly "triangular" flights without much downtime. Air NZ does the same with their Japan-NZ route, which is Narita-Christchurch-Auckland-Narita. I was going Narita-Auckland, so had to get off the plane at Chch and wait for an hour or so before boarding again- about half the passengers were new ones, heading back to Japan from Chch, and half were people who had come from Narita and were continuing on to Auckland.
The plane was cleaned and presumably restocked while we were waiting. With security concerns they obviously aren't going to have people get off the plane without their cabin luggage, and of course there are security checks when you get back on- that's flying in the 21st century unfortunately.
What you experienced do had nothing to do with being in Japan- it's just a system airlines use to be able to pick up and drop off passengers in two airports in one country with just one plane, and happens all over the world. |
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