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Employer wants to 'look after' passport
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Peg Leg Pete



Joined: 12 Feb 2010
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Location: Moscow

PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having read that, it does seem a big PITA.

Does this new scheme apply to teaching visas? I noticed in the link that somebody asked and there was no answer. If it does then not sure how long would want to put up with all that.
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kazachka



Joined: 19 Nov 2004
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Location: Moscow and Alaska

PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems to me it would apply to all visas since you have to register. Biz visas etc via agencies used to register you w/ said agency and it may also be ending. Seriously-I have a World Cup 50K race in mid July and the 100K World Championships in Sept and come hell or highwater- I WILL GO even if it means I just bugger off on out of here and bail for Riga-Sure I may end up making less there but at least I won't be told when and where I can and can't travel.
Now imagine you have a family emergency and NEED to LEAVE NOW and your landlord is out of town and can't deregister you! WTF?!
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Peg Leg Pete



Joined: 12 Feb 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly! It just does not add up. And what of the landlords who don't want to register people for tax avoidance purposes? It's a mess.

There is going to be a load of trouble over this. And nobody in "authority" has any answers.
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kazachka



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still no news at work on any new protocols either....YET. My landlord used to register me until I got a work visa 3 yrs ago and have sice been "living" at the office. He would do it again, but we are human and travel at different times.
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VladJR87



Joined: 06 Jul 2010
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know how "landlording" works over here, I assume the flat I am staying in is owned by the school I am at. Is this normally the case for schools that provide flats, or are they normally renting as well and just marking up... It would seem to me if they owned the flat they would be the landlord and still register as it is now. But, that is based on some assumptions that could be incorrect.
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Houston



Joined: 04 Apr 2010
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having watched the amount of effort my school has to put out when one of my coworkers loses their passport while drunk, I can almost see the argument on the side of the school.

At the end of the day though it's your passport, not theirs.

You can get around Moscow only having copies of your passport and the appropriate visas/registration cards. The passport should be sitting in your flat though, not in the company's safe. If you have to leave for some reason, or if you have a dispute with your employer, it would be way too easy for them to "lose" it.
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coledavis



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there's also good news attached to this. You only have to go to the Post Office to get registered, instead of the old dance with OVIR, police station and uncletomcobbleyandall.
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Velocipedaler



Joined: 23 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Houston wrote:
At the end of the day though it's your passport, not theirs.


If you're American, technically, it isn't yours. You simply bear it. Page 6 states, "This passport is the property of the United States Government." (I assume this doesn't apply only to Americans; I was, however, only able to verify an American passport.)

Just one more reason to not give it up!
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coledavis



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Velocipedaler wrote:
Houston wrote:
At the end of the day though it's your passport, not theirs.


If you're American, technically, it isn't yours. You simply bear it. Page 6 states, "This passport is the property of the United States Government." (I assume this doesn't apply only to Americans; I was, however, only able to verify an American passport.)

Just one more reason to not give it up!

Must be this big government your Tea Partyists get so worried about. The inside of mine says
Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State Requests and requires in the Name of Her Majesty all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely without let or hindrance, and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection as may be necessary.
So they'd better behave themselves..
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Dedicated



Joined: 18 May 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst I agree with what coledavis says, if you look at Page 2 of a UK passport, under notes "6 Caution", it also says:

This passport remains the property of Her Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom and may be withdrawn at any time. It should not be tampered with or passed to an unauthorised person
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