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		| santi84 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:12 pm    Post subject: For those of you who teach TOEFL |   |  
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				| Did you take a specific course to learn how to teach TOEFL effectively, or did you just learn it on your own - either through instructional books or hands-on experience? 
 I did a 30 credit TESL certificate but didn't do an in-depth study of how to teach TOEFL (I specialized primarily with refugees and functional daily English) but I'm interested in doing some part-time work with university students and TOEFL.
 
 If you did a course, can you say which one? Either distance or in Montreal, QC. If you learned from instructional books, which ones?
 
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		| Glenski 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:02 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Never took any course or training, but I have taught TOEIC courses. Pretty similar in nature. 
 You have to ask yourself whether you are actually going to teach how to get a good TOEFL score by teaching test-taking strategies, or by improving the students' English (grammar, vocabulary, reading speed and comprehension, listening comprehension).
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		| santi84 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:14 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Thank you Glenski. 
 I haven't worked in this market yet (Montreal) so I can't be certain, but I suspect the vast majority of students (francophone Canadians) will be seeking test-taking strategies. What confuses me is that most francophone students looking to get into an English university have strong listening/speaking skills but I have no idea the depth of their writing, reading, etc. I guess I should contact some teachers in Montreal to see what is in demand from that demographic.
 
 I'm used to teaching Asian students who have poor speaking/listening but strong grammar/writing/reading/etc.
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		| hollysuel 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:29 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I just went to some TOEFL sites and learned what the test was about.  Of course, I had already taught English for sixteen years so had a lot of experience under my belt. |  | 
	
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		| naturegirl321 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:17 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I haven't taught TOEFL, but did FCE and CAE.  I had to teach myself how to do it.  I WISH I could have taken a course on how to teach it.  I read over the teacher's book and talked to other teachers.  That' helped a bit. |  | 
	
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		| santi84 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:17 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Thanks holly. I have very little practical experience (one month full-time teaching practicum in 2009) so I think I'll probably need to brush up a lot on... everything    |  | 
	
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		| hollysuel 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:45 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Is there a course that concentrates on teaching the TOEFL, TOEIC, Cambridge, etc. ? |  | 
	
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		| santi84 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:06 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | hollysuel wrote: |  
	  | Is there a course that concentrates on teaching the TOEFL, TOEIC, Cambridge, etc. ? |  
 I'm not sure
  I know some less than reputable companies seem to advertise a TEFL certificate with a TOEFL concentration but I've already got a related degree and a post-graduate university TESL certificate so I don't want to waste any time or money with a subpar TEFL course. 
 I'm trying to find a course (online/distance/in Montreal) that specifically teaches how to teach TOEFL but so far have come up empty-handed.
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