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JZer
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| yamahuh wrote: |
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Saying "you can make 80K teaching English in Taiwan" is like saying "you can make $3,000 a month working at 7-Eleven." ... 30,000 - 60,000 NTD per month is what most average teachers in this country make.
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By way of recompense I must state that it is indeed possible to make $80K a month - probaly even in the wastelands outside of Taipei.
My basic wage is well over $60K a month and if I wanted to teach a daily, one hour, private class 5 or 6X a week for a (reasonable) fee of $750 per hour minimum, I would be adding at least $15K a month to that base - putting me at over $80K a month.
I just can't be bothered. |
I only leave my home five hours a day in order to earn 80,000. Yes, I do four hours of work from my home every day. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| creztor wrote: |
| Rooster, I agree with you on this one. However, this kind of discussion will achieve nothing. If some people think Taiwan is a cash cow they believe it to be, then best of luck to them. |
I never said that Taiwan is a cash cow. I said one can earn 80,000 a month and make a living.
I cannot complain about 80,000 a month and two trips abroad every year. In 2011, I already went to Tibet and have a ticket purchased for Russia.
Life is good in Taiwan. |
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creztor
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Again, as above this is a pointless discussion and really isn't related to the OP's original question. |
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yamahuh
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| JZer wrote: |
I only leave my home five hours a day in order to earn 80,000. Yes, I do four hours of work from my home every day. |
Good for you.
So which one is it - you're working 5 hours a day or 9 hours per day to earn $80K? It's always so difficult to know exactly what you are saying.
However - assuming 5 paid hours a day and a 5 day week you are earning $800NT an hour (better than average) but assuming 9 hours a day and a 5 day week it means you are making an average of $444 NT an hour - not so great. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| yamahuh wrote: |
| JZer wrote: |
I only leave my home five hours a day in order to earn 80,000. Yes, I do four hours of work from my home every day. |
Good for you.
So which one is it - you're working 5 hours a day or 9 hours per day to earn $80K? It's always so difficult to know exactly what you are saying.
However - assuming 5 paid hours a day and a 5 day week you are earning $800NT an hour (better than average) but assuming 9 hours a day and a 5 day week it means you are making an average of $444 NT an hour - not so great. |
I guess that would be nine hours a day not that I am actually always working the entire four hours when I write. Sometimes I get the work done in less time. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| creztor wrote: |
| Again, as above this is a pointless discussion and really isn't related to the OP's original question. |
Actually the OP said he was going to lurk around and see what comes up. The OP did not really have a clear question when he or she started. |
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Rooster_2006
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:54 am Post subject: |
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To make an analogy, Bob works at 7-Eleven for $8 an hour.
He also has a lucrative translations or proofreading gig on the side that nets him $500 a week.
A man asks Bob "Should I quit my office job and work at 7-Eleven? Will I have a good income and lifestyle?"
Bob says "Sure! 7-Eleven pays really well! I work at 7-Eleven and make $3,000 a month, and only leave the house to work five hours per day!"
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yamahuh
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:00 am Post subject: |
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| Rooster_2006 wrote: |
To make an analogy, Bob works at 7-Eleven for $8 an hour.
He also has a lucrative translations or proofreading gig on the side that nets him $500 a week.
A man asks Bob "Should I quit my office job and work at 7-Eleven? Will I have a good income and lifestyle?"
Bob says "Sure! If you quit your office job and start working at 7-11, you will make a great salary and live a wonderful life! I work at 7-Eleven and make $3,280 a month!" |
Fixed it for you a bit - but you had it pretty well summed up.
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louis.p
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:29 am Post subject: |
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| yamahuh wrote: |
| Rooster_2006 wrote: |
To make an analogy, Bob works at 7-Eleven for $8 an hour.
He also has a lucrative translations or proofreading gig on the side that nets him $500 a week.
A man asks Bob "Should I quit my office job and work at 7-Eleven? Will I have a good income and lifestyle?"
Bob says "Sure! If you quit your office job and start working at 7-11, you will make a great salary and live a wonderful life! I work at 7-Eleven and make $3,280 a month!" |
Fixed it for you a bit - but you had it pretty well summed up.
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Hahaha...well put。。。 |
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creztor
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| The problem with these forums is that people deliberately or accidentally leave out the fine print. The devil is in the details. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| Rooster the only problem is that I and others have made 80000 a month only teaching rug rats. |
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louis.p
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| JZer wrote: |
| Rooster the only problem is that I and others have made 80000 a month only teaching rug rats. |
Jzer is right. It's just not that easy anymore. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:28 am Post subject: |
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| Rooster_2006 wrote: |
To make an analogy, Bob works at 7-Eleven for $8 an hour.
He also has a lucrative translations or proofreading gig on the side that nets him $500 a week.
A man asks Bob "Should I quit my office job and work at 7-Eleven? Will I have a good income and lifestyle?"
Bob says "Sure! 7-Eleven pays really well! I work at 7-Eleven and make $3,000 a month, and only leave the house to work five hours per day!" |
One does not need some special job to earn 80,000. One just needs to look on line and go out and get the work!
One can earn 80,000 a month only getting 600 an hour. Of course if you can find higher paying students that would be even better. |
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Rooster_2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:19 am Post subject: |
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| JZer wrote: |
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To make an analogy, Bob works at 7-Eleven for $8 an hour.
He also has a lucrative translations or proofreading gig on the side that nets him $500 a week.
A man asks Bob "Should I quit my office job and work at 7-Eleven? Will I have a good income and lifestyle?"
Bob says "Sure! 7-Eleven pays really well! I work at 7-Eleven and make $3,000 a month, and only leave the house to work five hours per day!" |
One does not need some special job to earn 80,000. One just needs to look on line and go out and get the work!
One can earn 80,000 a month only getting 600 an hour. Of course if you can find higher paying students that would be even better. |
And similarly, one can make $3,000 a month working at 7-Eleven without any side work.
One does not need some special job to earn $3,000 at 7-Eleven. One just needs to look at the job postings on the 7-Eleven bulletin board and apply for jobs such as general manager or regional supervisor and be accepted. Even assistant managers can make $3,000 a month if they work enough hours.
One can earn $3,000 a month working at 7-Eleven only getting $9.85 an hour. Just work an average of 71 hours a week (for this, "stringing together" work at two 7-Elevens is preferable). Since there are 168 hours in a week and you only need to sleep 49 of those, this should be easy.
Both 7-Eleven and English teaching in Taiwan are easy ways to make $2,500 - $3,000 a month. Simple. Like shooting fish in a barrel. |
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yamahuh
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| JZer wrote: |
One does not need some special job to earn 80,000.
One can earn 80,000 a month only getting 600 an hour. |
If one wanted to teach an average of 33 hours a week then I guess that would be true - there aren't many places offering much in excess of $600 - $650 an hour right now for teaching ankle biters.
But your point stands - if you could find and schedule yourself well enough to teach that average, week in and week out then it is 'possible' to earn $80K a month. And I say more power to you. You've earned your $80K if you're willing to do it...
Not for me. |
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