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[patrickCanuck]

I'm currently in correspondence with a few recruiters about possible jobs, one person in particular is helen from china. She tells me basically that the job is in yuncheng and that I will receive training for one week for TESOL certification, and then move onto the job.

Is this a legitimate sounding job to you or does any of it sound strange?

This is my first job in china and all I am awaiting is my passport .
Are there other places in china that offer the same training and job placement opportunities?

The pay seems normal, especially with my lack of degree. Also all the normal things are there, but as for any more info, it is not being presented to me, and all I can find on Yuncheng is unsettling.

This is lifted from wikipedia.

"Public Security Issues

Rural communities in the Yuncheng Municipal region have been the hunting grounds of Snakeheads, Chinese Human trafficking mafia. Rural children, typically middle school students fit for labour, were "recruited" with the promise of jobs in in China's far southwest -- Longchuan County in Yunnan's Dehong Prefecture. Once in Longchuan the children were whisked ("through sugar-cane fields on a motorcycle") over the international border into Kachin State and imprisoned. They were made to sign demands for ransom (e.g. 40 - 80 000 RMB). They are subjected to Torture (burnt by cigarette, violated by chopstick, fingernails pulled by pliers, forced into fights by starvation, terrorised by captive animals) prior to making telephone appeals home.

For the "recruiter"/kidnappers the ethno-linguistic ties between the Jingpo-nation citizens of Dehong and those of Kachin are an enabling factor, as is the ineffectiveness of Chinese-allied Myanmar police in this region of de facto independence (Cf. Nayoubeng Mountain militia); Inter-Pol is of even less use, as Myanmar itself is a rogue state.

According to the Chinese-language Beijing News (2009 Jan 20), around 50 students left Yuncheng for the Snakehead "jobs" in September-October 2008. Some boys disappeared immediately, the rest were to follow. Two families whose sons had left Yuncheng in the middle of October paid ransoms on Nov 5; these boys reappeared in Longchuan on Nov 8. Back home in Shanxi, the boys told police and reporters that one of their cellmates had been one of the earliest-disappeared Yuncheng boys, and was in a very bad way ("nothing but skin and bones .. babbling like an idiot"). Yuncheng police paid a third ransom at year's end, and one boy, disappeared in late October, was retrieved on Jan 2.[1]



If that is fake then fine, but that kinda makes me think badly about the town or area.

Any info that can be given would be appreciated.

[naturegirl321]

Have you tried posting int he CHina forum?

[nickpellatt]

TBH - you havent given enough information for anyone to really respond with much detail. If the recruiter is dodgy, and people from Daves know her by experience or reputation, they might need a bit more to go on ie - the name of the recruiting agency. More details on the school would help too!

You need to speak to about the visa arrangements. If you dont have a degree you may not have a legal work visa.

Find out more about the school, the hours, the salary package and what fringe benefits are included. Find out about the accom, and ask for a contact at the school, a current or ex teacher.

The training will probably be non-existent, and is not likely to give you any TEFL qualification. On the job training is normally minimal in China at the best of times.

I wouldnt worry about the wikipedia story. It may be true, but not something to worry about. It may have been a big story in the Chinese media at the time, but it shouldnt affect an EFL teacher. Every town has a story somewhere right?

You do need to provide more info for a decent response though. China has quite a large population, and telling is its 'Helen from China' is a bit of a needle in a very large haystack

[Beloved]

I am not sure if you are still looking for a job but, I was also offered a job in Yuncheng. After I read about the area and also heard from teachers who have taught there I was no longer interested in going. You know what they say to each his own some may have went and had a wonderful time!