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Jessb52
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That's the thing about the UK - we don't do scholarships  really wish we did!
If it doesn't work out, then hey-ho, i'll come back to Blighty and do what I need to do here, but, i'm sure I can work something out, even if just for a year.
If it was purely about the money, I wouldn't leave my job here but sometimes, there's just more to life 
Interesting debate though - thanks,
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, but if you're British and pay local tuition, it's usually MUCh cheaper than American unis. |
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Mrs McClusky
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:53 am Post subject: Re: Completing BA whilst Teaching English abroad |
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| Jessb52 wrote: |
Hello all,
After much researching and investigating I'm about to embark on a career in Teaching English as a Foreign Language, and i've decided on Cambodia as the place to start this exciting new prospect.
Although any general advice and tips on this subject are much appreciated, my main query is: would it be feasible to complete my BA whilst teaching English abroad?
I currently have a foundation degree (basically i've completed the first 2 years of my degree) and there is an option with the Open University (in the UK, a well respected distance only Uni) to do my 3rd year with them and thus completing my BA.
It works out at having to do 2 modules, which I could either do in one year or split over 2.
Obviously there's the cost to consider, but tbh, i'm more concerned that I won't be able to focus enough on completing the course and/or won't be able to focus on the job of Teaching English, I don't just want to be one of those teachers who are there to travel and gain some funds to do it and don't give a damn about the students/quality of teaching!
If anyone has got any direct experience, i'd be really grateful, but if not, i'd also be really grateful on people's thoughts - would there be enough time? Are there, quite frankly, too many distractions to feasibly consider it?
Thanks for your anticipated advice!
Jess
P.s. I've tried searching on this subject but I couldn't find anything so apologies for any duplicate posts! 
P.p.s. I've also put this in the Cambodia thread but apologies if it's not the 'done thing' - if not, please let me know and I shall delete |
I know a few guys doing a degree in Thailand at Ramkamheang (Spelling) university, they can work at language schools and only have to study a couple of days a week. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:38 am Post subject: Re: Completing BA whilst Teaching English abroad |
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| Mrs McClusky wrote: |
| I know a few guys doing a degree in Thailand at Ramkamheang (Spelling) university, they can work at language schools and only have to study a couple of days a week. |
How well recognised is this uni? Keep in mind that some employers wnat you to have a degree from an English speaking country. |
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Mrs McClusky
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:14 am Post subject: Re: Completing BA whilst Teaching English abroad |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| Mrs McClusky wrote: |
| I know a few guys doing a degree in Thailand at Ramkamheang (Spelling) university, they can work at language schools and only have to study a couple of days a week. |
How well recognised is this uni? Keep in mind that some employers wnat you to have a degree from an English speaking country. |
It's internationally accredited and recognized all over the place, but yes some picky buggers in the middle east ask for an anglophonic (real word??)uni degree.
I'm sure a UK passport, a good story as to why one studied in BKK (my kid is half Thai or something like that) should overcome it. But good point. I think 99% of employers are tied by visa regulations rather than which uni you studied at. But I could be wrong. Study at Chulalongkorn in BKK. That place is rated far higher than most UK unis anyway. |
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Jessb52
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Those websites look really interesting, Mrs McCluskey, thanks for that.
And naturegirl - our current govt has just tripled the fees for our uni's - it's now �9,000 per year for fees alone, but yes, I acknowledge that American Uni's are not payable without scholarship.
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Mrs McClusky
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Jessb52 wrote: |
Those websites look really interesting, Mrs McCluskey, thanks for that.
And naturegirl - our current govt has just tripled the fees for our uni's - it's now �9,000 per year for fees alone, but yes, I acknowledge that American Uni's are not payable without scholarship.
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9 grand a year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The average UK person probably doesn't have that after tax, NI and living expenses............. In fact I know they don't. 27 grand debt after 3 years not including having to live, that's just plain wako jacko |
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Dedicated
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Let's just get this straight. UK universities will increase their home student fees from 2012, ranging from �6,000 to �9,000. They can only change �9,000 if they ensure access for poorer students. So far, only about 6 universities have officially said they will charge �9,000.
Nobody pays upfront. The fees are paid by the government but paid off after graduation but only once the student starts earning �21,000 a year.They would pay back 9% of earnings above �21,000 for up to 30 years. After 30 years, any remaining debt is wiped off.
Young people whose families earn less than �25,000 will receive an additional annual grant of �3,250. |
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Mrs McClusky
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| Dedicated wrote: |
Let's just get this straight. UK universities will increase their home student fees from 2012, ranging from �6,000 to �9,000. They can only change �9,000 if they ensure access for poorer students. So far, only about 6 universities have officially said they will charge �9,000.
Nobody pays upfront. The fees are paid by the government but paid off after graduation but only once the student starts earning �21,000 a year.They would pay back 9% of earnings above �21,000 for up to 30 years. After 30 years, any remaining debt is wiped off.
Young people whose families earn less than �25,000 will receive an additional annual grant of �3,250. |
payback starts @ 15g's i believe, could be wrong |
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Dedicated
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Payback for a student loan is currently when your salary is �15,000.
Under the new proposals, it goes up to �21,000. |
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fladude
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Um, not really. I got scholarships, CLEPed out of courses, took summer courses and the local JC, worked PT, graduated early, with honours, and debt free. I'm sure I'm not the only one who did that. And I went to a private school that cost over 20K a year and that was over a decade ago. |
Well that's good for you. But most of us don't have those kind of opportunities. If we did then everyone would go free and that obviously doesn't happen. Most people who went to your 20k a year school took out student loans for 20k a year (probably more for living expenses).
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fladude
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| They would pay back 9% of earnings above �21,000 for up to 30 years. After 30 years, any remaining debt is wiped off. |
So basically ten percent of your pre-tax income for your working life. Sounds like a great deal.... |
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naturegirl321
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
Um, not really. I got scholarships, CLEPed out of courses, took summer courses and the local JC, worked PT, graduated early, with honours, and debt free. I'm sure I'm not the only one who did that. And I went to a private school that cost over 20K a year and that was over a decade ago. |
Well that's good for you. But most of us don't have those kind of opportunities. If we did then everyone would go free and that obviously doesn't happen. Most people who went to your 20k a year school took out student loans for 20k a year (probably more for living expenses). |
Considedring that a good percentage of the student population came from the inner city, I highly doubt it. Check out religious schools. They give out scholarship. Apply for scholarships as well. Our school would come out with a list, I'd apply to everyone I was eligible for. Most people are lazy and don't apply due to the fact that you need to write essays or get recommendation letters. One year I got three scholarship. Anyone can also go to a local community college, pay A LOT less per credit and transfer those credits. Ditto for studying for CLEP tests and doing those. It's simply that many people don't WANT to do the extra work. |
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Mrs McClusky
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
Um, not really. I got scholarships, CLEPed out of courses, took summer courses and the local JC, worked PT, graduated early, with honours, and debt free. I'm sure I'm not the only one who did that. And I went to a private school that cost over 20K a year and that was over a decade ago. |
Well that's good for you. But most of us don't have those kind of opportunities. If we did then everyone would go free and that obviously doesn't happen. Most people who went to your 20k a year school took out student loans for 20k a year (probably more for living expenses). |
Considedring that a good percentage of the student population came from the inner city, I highly doubt it. Check out religious schools. They give out scholarship. Apply for scholarships as well. Our school would come out with a list, I'd apply to everyone I was eligible for. Most people are lazy and don't apply due to the fact that you need to write essays or get recommendation letters. One year I got three scholarship. Anyone can also go to a local community college, pay A LOT less per credit and transfer those credits. Ditto for studying for CLEP tests and doing those. It's simply that many people don't WANT to do the extra work. |
'Most are lazy' I'll get you a broom make sure such 'sweeping' covers as much target area as possible. |
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Dedicated
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:07 am Post subject: |
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| So basically ten per cent of your pre-tax income for your working life. Sounds like a great deal |
No, you pay 9% of your income over �21,000. That is, if you get a salary of �35,000, then you pay 9% of �14,000....about �1260 per year, about �100 a month. |
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