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How hard is it to get a job at an International School???
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deniserita



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:04 am    Post subject: How hard is it to get a job at an International School??? Reply with quote

Hi All,

I have been applying all over at a variety of International Schools. I know that many schools have not started interviewing but am getting worried that I have received many responses.

So my question is how difficult is it to get a job at an International School?
I feel that I am qualified (12 years of teaching experience and 2 master degrees in Education) but not sure if I am setting my hopes too high. I have never taught abroad, so I am lacking experience in that sense. In America it is very difficult to get a teaching job, where some times there are 100s of applicants for 1 position. Is that the case at International Schools?

I know that some schools require for the teacher to have an EU passport, but I have really applied all over.

My hope would be to get a job in April, is that reasonable? My present school district really would like for me to let them know as soon as possible.

Would that give me enough time to get all Visa requirements completed?

OR should I have a plan B?

Thanks for your help!
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denise



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You generally need to be a certified/credentialed K-12 teacher.

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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really, REALLY depends. There are good intl ones and bad ones. Some want to hire local hires, since they're cheaper and basically they can treat them work than overseas hires. Soma wait until the last minute. Some only hire at intl job fairs. Some countries are more popular than others. Places like Costa Rica probably get more apps than Kazakstan.

With your experience, just keep sending your CV. Also check out IBO schools or TES adverts, International School Reviews would be a good website as well.

Actually, good schools often recruit a year in advance. But denise is right, you often need a teaching cert to get in. Though there are some that will hire you without one.

Have you been to intl school job fairs? Or applied with some of the intl school recruiters? Some dont take direct enquiries.
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deniserita



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since I am a certified teacher my chances are higher right?

I joined TIE and have been applying there along with TES notifications. I feel ok with the number of resumes I have sent out, but just am not getting the response I thought I would have gotten.

I haven't gone to any job fairs...too late for them. There is one in June, but I can't wait that long.

I think I am just getting anxious, because of the need to let my school know.

Maybe I need to think of a plan B. What would be an easier job to get? Maybe the language schools? EF?
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

deniserita wrote:
Since I am a certified teacher my chances are higher right?

I joined TIE and have been applying there along with TES notifications. I feel ok with the number of resumes I have sent out, but just am not getting the response I thought I would have gotten.

I haven't gone to any job fairs...too late for them. There is one in June, but I can't wait that long.

I think I am just getting anxious, because of the need to let my school know.

Maybe I need to think of a plan B. What would be an easier job to get? Maybe the language schools? EF?


Depending on WHERE on the planet you are trying to go your chances would vary between low (western Europe) and 100% (Asia).

Timing is also a factor. Many "international" schools work on the "western" academic calendar (school starts in Sept.) but some work on the local calendar (as do most private, English immersion, bilingual k-12 schools abroad) and hiring varies from country to country (as an example, now is hiring season in Thailand for Thai based schools, January is peak in Korea (March 2 starts) for public/private schools, April school starts in Japan, etc.)

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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

deniserita wrote:
Since I am a certified teacher my chances are higher right?
I joined TIE and have been applying there along with TES notifications. I feel ok with the number of resumes I have sent out, but just am not getting the response I thought I would have gotten.
I haven't gone to any job fairs...too late for them. There is one in June, but I can't wait that long.
I think I am just getting anxious, because of the need to let my school know.
Maybe I need to think of a plan B. What would be an easier job to get? Maybe the language schools? EF?

Keep in mind that you're not the only one applying. Usually around this time of year most positions are being filled. If you want to work anywhere and money isn't a concern, then just get a langauge school jobs. There are tons on the job boards.
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sistercream



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You didn't mention to which areas of the world you are sending your c.v.s.
Most of the top ranked international schools in Hong Kong have done the bulk of their interviewing already, but positions are still coming up as current teachers' significant others are informed that their jobs will be transferred to Elsewhere.
A lot of southern hemisphere places start their school years in February (after summer vacation Wink ) and so aren't even thinking of next year yet.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that banking on landing a job within the next 30 days is probably going to be unrealistic (as I understand your original post on the thread, this is an issue, correct?). Though, as others have pointed out, quite a lot depends where in the world you are aiming to go. There is obviously more demand in some regions than others.

International school positions are generally pretty highly coveted and are often snapped up by qualified teachers already living in the area. The field isn't really wide open for new applicants, even with what sounds like quite decent qualifications (in your case). It normally takes some time and effort to land something reasonable.


What would be an easier job to get? Maybe the language schools? EF?

To make a move from a professional teaching context to a language school is a kind of professional suicide leap. Ok, that's a bit too dramatic, but I presume you currently have things like a stable contract, health insurance, pension benefits, etc. Private language schools mostly offer none of the above, and are generally considered a starting point for newbies in the field, though more experienced teachers sometimes find good niches in them as DOS/trainer/other manangement. Again, it usually takes local connections to get these better jobs at a private language school - they are unlikely to hire someone from abroad to do more than just the basics.

You might be best off to sign on with your current school for another year, and take the time to line up something more solid, rather than rushing into anything you can get in the next couple of weeks. It's a big step!!
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Zero



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tttompatz wrote:
Depending on WHERE on the planet you are trying to go your chances would vary between low (western Europe) and 100% (Asia).


Can you elaborate on this? Specifically, if one gets certified and maybe racks up some home-country experience, how do you think the job market would be in China at international schools?
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somewhere_else



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:


You might be best off to sign on with your current school for another year, and take the time to line up something more solid, rather than rushing into anything you can get in the next couple of weeks. It's a big step!!


I think this is a great piece of advice! Good international schools look for people with your qualifications and experience. The problem is that it is really late in the recruiting season for international schools. Although you may luck into a decent last minute position, most of the schools with better reputations have already finished recruiting for the year. With international schools, just as with language schools, you really need to be careful and thoroughly research the school before you sign any contract. If possible, as others have said, your best bet is to stay on for another year at your current school, sign up with one of the big international school job recruiters in the fall, and attend a job fair in January or February 2012.

I hope everything works out for you!
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deniserita



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the advice. I have been looking and applying at different schools since January...I was told that this was a little early since most schools don't hire until March and April for the following school year (much like in America) Which it sounds like that may not be true. However, a lot of the schools still have openings and are interviewing in April. I guess I was just wondering if it is really difficult to get a job. I know that others will be applying, but was hoping that my 12 years of teaching experience and 2 Master Degrees in Education would help me to stand out from the crowd a bit.

I am actually only planning on doing this for a year, really to experience a year living abroad doing something I love. I am fortunate enough to have a super supportive district that is granting me a year leave of absence to do this. I am guaranteed a job once I come home. So I am not worried about this being a long term commitment. My goal is to learn about a different culture and experience what it is like to live in a culture different than my own. I really would like to do this next year and not wait another year.

I am hoping to get something soon, but if not I need to look at other employment.

Thanks
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero wrote:
tttompatz wrote:
Depending on WHERE on the planet you are trying to go your chances would vary between low (western Europe) and 100% (Asia).


Can you elaborate on this? Specifically, if one gets certified and maybe racks up some home-country experience, how do you think the job market would be in China at international schools?


There is a significant shortage of qualified teachers at 1st and 2nd tier international schools (in addition to English immersion and bilingual schools) all across Asia.

The chances of finding work in China (largest population and 3rd largest country on the planet) at an international school within 90 days of beginning the job search would be excellent.

Depending on the time of year the chances of success within 90 days (and being at work in less than 6 months from the start of the job search) would go from 50% (Dec-Feb / slow period)) to 100% (April-June for Sept starts).

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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

deniserita wrote:
Thanks for all the advice. I have been looking and applying at different schools since January...I was told that this was a little early since most schools don't hire until March and April for the following school year (much like in America) Which it sounds like that may not be true. However, a lot of the schools still have openings and are interviewing in April. I guess I was just wondering if it is really difficult to get a job. I know that others will be applying, but was hoping that my 12 years of teaching experience and 2 Master Degrees in Education would help me to stand out from the crowd a bit.

I am actually only planning on doing this for a year, really to experience a year living abroad doing something I love.

I'm not sure where you get those dates from. If you look at job fair info, they have most of their fairs early on in the year, and that's probably to fill positions that haven't already been filled by recruiting in country, http://www.internationalschoolsreview.com/nonmembers/recruitingfairs-schedules2010.htm

12 years experience and 2 MAs will help you, but many teachers who teach overseas have just as much expeirence as you do.

I know this is coming across as negative, sorry,

Another thing, many contracts are for two or three years. I would suggest you decide whether or not you want to take the jump this year, if you do, then go to job fairs. There WILL be last minute openings, but probably not in the most popular countries or schools, but since you just want to do it for a year, then it' should work out.
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deniserita



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No not negative Naturegirl. I know you are trying to help, but now I am just truly confused. When I first started on this board people told me with my experience I should look into International Schools...I was too experienced for language schools.

So that is what I did, now I'm being told that lots of people has this many years of teaching and it's too late in the year????

I would like to do this next year, I've already talked to my district and they are willing to allow me to do this for next year....don't want to say "oh think I'll stay this year and do it next" They may not approve the leave. I thought I would be able to get a job over seas for next year. I thought starting to look and send out CV's in January gave me plenty of time for a position in Sept.

Maybe not.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not too late. There are still lots of opening, but like I said, they might not be at the best of school, or they might be in far away countries, such as those in northwest asia. There ARE still jobs and if you're not picky you can get them. I've had friends get offers from northwestern asian countries that include a house, maid, cook, and driver. These countries don't get a lot of applicants, so they tend to bend over backwards to help the ones they have.

Go to a job fair. That's your best bet
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