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wave5



Joined: 18 Feb 2011
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Location: London/Yokohama

PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:45 pm    Post subject: Switching job within China Reply with quote

I have a question concerning changing to a new job while in China.

If I have a work visa with one employer (Private school) and I want to leave early, half-way through the contract to work for a new employer (Chinese University), do I need to get a reference from my first Chinese employer for immigration to change my visa over/get a new visa for the new employer?
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Teatime of Soul



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the rule. You should have your old and new employers coordinate transferring of your FRP to your new employer.

Just so there is no confusion and your current employer mistakenly issues you a 30 day tourist visa instead, express mail your FRP and passport to your new employer and have them contact the old employer.

Cheers
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wave5



Joined: 18 Feb 2011
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks TofS,

What if my first employer is being difficult because I'm leaving early, even if I gave two months notice?

Cheers
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daCabbie



Joined: 02 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does your contract say about leaving? Did you give notice two months ago (in writing) and get a response (in writing)?

I wouldn't be happy about it either. You are costing them money and creating more work for them.

You have two choices: 1) kiss your present employers backside and get the documents (this will most likely involve a breach of contract payment) or 2) go to your new employer and ask them to get the documents (if they really want you, they will do it).

Your other option is off the grid. Not recommended.

How long is left on your contract? What type of schools? You got any guanxi?
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askiptochina



Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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Location: Beijing

PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Your other option is off the grid. Not recommended.


Is that code for like stealing money? You could charge more than something is worth like a car salesman, you could make promises like a politician, and well the other option is just off the grid (equaling robbing a store) Laughing Laughing Laughing
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wave5



Joined: 18 Feb 2011
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Contract doesn't say anything about leaving. If it just has dates of employment from December 2010 - December 2011 and I gave notice nearly two months ago in writing, have no written reply. What then?

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2) go to your new employer and ask them to get the documents (if they really want you, they will do it).


How will they get them? Question
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choudoufu



Joined: 25 May 2010
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Location: Mao-berry, PRC

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

page 3 of your official SAFEA contract specifies when you
as party B can terminate your contract early.

page 4 specifies the breach penalties.

you did receive and sign a copy of this from your employer?
or did they only give you their addendum?
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Non Sequitur



Joined: 23 May 2010
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Location: China

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What OP is doing is basically a semi legit 'runner'.
I've done the same thing and I agree with another poster that your best ally is the FAO at your new school.
In my case the new uni had clout (tier one) and all the difficulties over paperwork evaporated when they got on the case.
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dakelei



Joined: 17 May 2009
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Location: USA

PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Offer to help your present school find a replacement for you. Sometimes that helps. They're less likely to give you a problem if they have someone lined up to take your job.
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mat chen



Joined: 01 Nov 2009
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Location: xiangtan hunan

PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tread carefully. You may end up personna non grata. Not something you need if you want to travel again in another foreign country. Many people here tell you everything will be alright. Easy for them to say but they have nothing to lose/
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Alexis009



Joined: 10 Jan 2011
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