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artemisia

Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 875 Location: the world
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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..well into his third millennium... |
I didn't realise Scot47 had been around that long! Impressive.
For anyone who'd been tefling that long, I can see why you'd be desperate to retire.  |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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Dear artemisia,
Alas - you are forgetting the "time differential" in Saudi. In a way similar to how a "New York minute" is actually a jiffy (1/100th 0f a second), in the Kingdom, each minute stretches out to about a year.
Taking that into consideration, scot47 has been in the Saudi for many millennia.
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:32 am Post subject: |
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I shall be happy to catapult myself from the 15th Century (Anno Hegirae) in KSA to the 21st in Scotland.
Mind you looking at the current debates about sectarianism in Scotland I feel that benighted land may still be somewhere in the tail mend of the 17th century |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:35 am Post subject: |
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Ok
Will settle for 3 mistakes.
Question structure lacking
was/were
Britain/British
I am used to students haggling over mistakes and marks ! |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Good point Scot... that way one can settle on the three.
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sheikh radlinrol
Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 1222 Location: Spain
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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scot47 wrote: |
Ok
Will settle for 3 mistakes.
Question structure lacking
was/were
Britain/British
I am used to students haggling over mistakes and marks ! |
I would expect elementary students to say ��Were you born in Glasgow?��, for example. However, my advanced students know that I had a Catholic upbringing, they know the name of my favourite soccer team and that I enjoy beverages which contain alcohol. In this case, ��You were born in Glasgow?��, sounds natural and correct.
I rest my case. (HIC!)
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huh?
Joined: 17 Mar 2011 Posts: 18
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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You was born in British?
I only see one mistake - British.
Kuwait is full of American military - certain American subcultures use "you was" all the time. It's not a mistake when they use it - it's purposely used to distance themselves from people who use standard English (you know -the style spoken by smarmy twats). Okay, so the man in the airport didn't know he was being cool, but he may have picked it up from people who knew exactly why they were saying it.
If someone looks at my passport, I expect them to say "You were born in X?". I know they are asking for confirmation of what they think is correct. If someone looks at my passport and says "Were you born in X?", I assume I must be dealing with someone who can't actually read, is on drugs or is mentally retarded.
I agree that the level of English among police and security personnel in the Middle East is not very good - but then, what is the motivation? There's no pay increase or promotion in it for them. Maybe just the personal satisfaction of being able to speak proper to all the smarmy twats who come to their country? |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Kuwait is full of American military - certain American subcultures use "you was" all the time. It's not a mistake when they use it - it's purposely used to distance themselves from people who use standard English (you know -the style spoken by smarmy twats). Okay, so the man in the airport didn't know he was being cool, but he may have picked it up from people who knew exactly why they were saying it. |
I'm all-too-familiar with the common misuse of the past tense of 'to be' in some regions of the US. That it's common doesn't make it any less an error. I can guarantee you that many, many poor US high school English teachers tried their best to correct their students' speech in this respect. The argument is usually along the lines of: speaking this way, you will NEVER get into a university. The only way you will ever get out of Hickville with this kind of language..............
will be military service!
C'mon - they developed this misuse long before they ever had any opportunity to meet any foreign 'smarmy twit' to distance themselves from!!
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If someone looks at my passport, I expect them to say "You were born in X?". I know they are asking for confirmation of what they think is correct. If someone looks at my passport and says "Were you born in X?", I assume I must be dealing with someone who can't actually read, is on drugs or is mentally retarded. |
What of those of us with two passports? I may well, in fact, NOT have been born in the country whose passport I am travelling on. There are many, many of us 'smarmy twits' out here with more than one legitimate passport  |
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sheikh radlinrol
Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 1222 Location: Spain
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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He said smarmy *beep*, not smarmy twit. There is a difference, you know.  |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Ah doan' wanna git banned  |
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sheikh radlinrol
Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 1222 Location: Spain
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Why can Huh? say *beep* on this board and I can�t. It�s not fair. |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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'Coz unlike us he's using it in an inoffensive way that distances himself from other language communities? |
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spiral78

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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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True. If I were going to use the word in this context, it would be directed at an individual, and that's surely not kosher. |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Spiral, my espionage networks can fit you out with a Russian passport if you like. Not quite legitimate, but then most people's here aren't... Anyway, you may be faced with several border police questions, including 'You were born in Russia?' and ''Were you born in Russia?' I'm not convinced that the interpretation put forward previously would quite match the interrogator's intent... |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Конечно, я был!
I'm not a member of 'a visible minority' in Moscow.
The schnauzer, however, has got distinct North American characteristics and has trouble 'passing' in any European country. Fact. |
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